Ahri is not a skillshot based champion

PiVoRx·Aug 28, 2015·8 votes·1,143 views

What is so skillful about ulting into point blank range to hit unavoidable charm and then destroying someone with true damage?

35 Comments

FacerollKatarinaAug 28, 20157 votes

Why so much hate on ahri lately? I think shes fine..

helpfulolguysAug 28, 20153 votes

If she doesn't get a lead, she is really weak

PredatoreAug 28, 20157 votes

True damage, Heal, mobility all crammed into her q.

MarthianAug 28, 20155 votes

True damage that is only half of her Q's damage if you get hit by the return. Only a heal if her passive is up (and she will more likely use it on minions than you unless she was going for a kill)

FacerollKatarinaAug 28, 20156 votes

True damage is only one way in her Q, Heal you have to use a bunch of other spells i think and the move speed idk why they put that in. But shes always been pretty balanced to me. Now everyone can't pick and immobile laner like Viktor and auto win lane. She's in a good spot right now and her kit is fair. And i'm not even an ahri main and i only play her occasionally but shes fine right now. Shes a good pick vs other popular mid laners now.

Yosuke ApperuAug 28, 20153 votes

You realize ahri has always been like that right? The forums are bitching worse now than they were back in the dfg and charm amplifier on her damage... she was way more of a problem back then.

Shroom JunkieAug 31, 20151 votes

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True damage, Heal, mobility all crammed into her q.

True damage on the way back(not saying that's hard to land, but it can be dodged, especially with all the dashes now'o'days), the heal is her PASSIVE, not her Q, and can be used with any ability, and mobility is a small speed boost. Don't make it sound better than it is.

ReshiKillimAug 28, 20154 votes

Well, guess what. There's actually a lot of ways to dodge that point blank charm for most champions, even for immobile ones. If you're playing an immobile squishy "I'll kill you in 2 secs" glass cannon champ, save flash for when she tries to dive you. Flash dodge her charm and proceed to punish her.

And as for anyone with a mobility ability, it's not that difficult to dodge at all. If she's trying to ult into point blank on you, simply juke to the side as she gets close. Often times that'll make her miss completely. Nearly all mobility abilities are fast enough to get out of the way, as Ahri charm isn't an instant cast ability.

Not to mention her true damage isn't very high.

MohawkBirdAug 30, 20151 votes

Flash is not really legitimate counter play. Saying to use the spell that's on an extremely long cooldown is not really good.

SalronAug 28, 20154 votes

Right just let me ult into melee range in a team fight... Oh wait.

lolcommunity1Aug 28, 20152 votes

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What is so skillful about ulting into point blank range to hit unavoidable charm and then destroying someone with true damage?

As much skill as it takes to play Master Yi.

PiVoRxAug 28, 20151 votes

count ahri and yi pick rate in lcs then come back to compare something

Charmed by AhriAug 29, 20152 votes

You play master yi. 1k games in d5. Baddie. What is there to avoid from you? not a damn thing. Then you come to the forums within the Ahri community, which contains people legitimately trying to learn this champion some asking for help in match ups, then the other half like you, come to just complain and Cry like a 12 yo child. What's worse you're complaining about Ahri landing skillshots ?! when you don't even main a champion who has single skillshot. Please delete your eune account! LMFAO

PiVoRxAug 29, 20151 votes

"count ahri and yi pick rate in lcs then come back to compare something"

Charmed by AhriAug 29, 20152 votes

There are those yi players, but he was a champion with zero counter play when played AP. Then today he's a sub par assassin/fighter with absolutely no cc, no initiation for team fights. But like any assassin can really snowball if he gets ahead. But why would pros honestly pick him unless to troll. He isn't the greatest of top laners, he isn't even good mid anymore, then his jg presence is horrible. Unless they chose him to be a split pushing yi for bronze wins? When zed does that far better, as he is capable of poking with (key word mind you) a skillshot. Then doesn't have to waste an ult to escape a gank. There's nothing to compare when it comes to Ahri and YI, both have sustain, ahri is seen every season in the LCS and is terror in competitive play, capable of being an assassin or mage. You play a shitty champion, who has no skill shot, no cc, no team initiation and needs resets to really get going. But again delete you EUNE account. LMAO

PiVoRxAug 29, 20151 votes

Those ahri waifus.. never stop to impress.

Yea i play champion that compared to ahri is not much better than baron boosted minion.

And what is more skillful, playing baron boosted minion or insanely overloaded champion with no real weakness?

just wow..

lolcommunity1Aug 29, 20153 votes

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Those ahri waifus.. never stop to impress.

Yea i play champion that compared to ahri is not much better than baron boosted minion.

And what is more skillful, playing baron boosted minion or insanely overloaded champion with no real weakness?

just wow..

Master Yi not much better then a baron boosted minion? LOL. Nevermind that sated devour still exists and he is dumb as fuck late game once he finishes AFK farming the Jungle. Oh, but.... Master Yi is vulnerable to CC and can get locked down..... Blah Blah Blah.

It doesn't take much effort to activate Highlander, run towards the enemy, alpha strike them and just let your auto attacks do the rest of the work with insane Criticals and Attack Speed that is able to mow down both squishes AND tanks.

Don't try to fucking lie about how strong or mechanically demanding your precious Master Yi is because you are not fooling anybody. Even certain champions that i absolutely despise take FAR more effort to play at maximum efficiency then your scrub of a champion. Of course I am talking about fucking Leblanc and Fizz.

Never compare Ahri and Master Yi again and try to say that the latter takes more skill because you are a idiot if you think that is the case.

PiVoRxAug 29, 20151 votes

http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=lolcommunity1 mhm ok..

yea yi is so op hes permabanned in lcs an no one can pick him, oh wait...

meanwhile ahri..

lolcommunity1Aug 30, 20152 votes

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http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=lolcommunity1 mhm ok..

yea yi is so op hes permabanned in lcs an no one can pick him, oh wait...

meanwhile ahri..

Because LCS and Solo Q are the same thing right dipshit?

Also, Ahri has been a very seldom pick when other champions like Azir and Viktor have been taking priority.

PiVoRxAug 30, 20151 votes

keep trying

BronzoidAug 29, 20152 votes

Because if you do that you're gonna die

The Sword SaintAug 30, 20152 votes

'Ahri is not a skillshot based champion'

Describes using a skillshot dash followed by a skillshot cc and a skillshot true damage attack.

Ok.

MohawkBirdAug 30, 20151 votes

The dash really shouldn't be considered a skillshot, especially considering the damage coming from it is targeted.

The Sword SaintAug 30, 20152 votes

It's targeted... but you don't get to pick the target you want in a group of people, and if noone is in range because they flashed for example it still won't hit.

MohawkBirdAug 30, 20151 votes

Still, for any dash to be considered a skill shot is pushing the boundaries a bit.

The Sword SaintAug 30, 20152 votes

Not really. A dash is either targeted like jax and katarina, or it is a skillshot like khazix and ahri. There's no in between. Maybe you reflexively don't like to associate 'skill' with using a dash, but it doesn't change which terminology is accurate.

MohawkBirdAug 30, 20152 votes

Yes, there are certain dashes that are skillshots in the sense that it requires you to land near the target to do damage (Like this guys jump: Khazix ). But there are other ones that either don't do damage and are just a dash forward ( Lucian Graves ) that I wouldn't consider skillshots. Ahri is in the boat because the damage is targeted.

The Sword SaintAug 31, 20151 votes

This feels like splitting hairs.

Shroom JunkieAug 31, 20151 votes

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Yes, there are certain dashes that are skillshots in the sense that it requires you to land near the target to do damage (Like this guys jump: ). But there are other ones that either don't do damage and are just a dash forward ( ) that I wouldn't consider skillshots. Ahri is in the boat because the damage is targeted.

Well, to be fair, Graves gives him a speed boost. I'd bring up Lucian's proccing his passive but that's not really his dash itself.

IAMS4T4NAug 28, 20151 votes

THESE RESPONSES ARE CANCER OH MY GOD

IcyPepperAug 29, 20152 votes

god forbid people have opposing opinions to a statement that claims a champion isn't skillshot-based based on one egregious situation

it's not like other champions can't land skillshots at point-blank range, cc or otherwise.

TyroneWatermelonAug 28, 20151 votes

only charm is hard to land(in lane) nothing else basicly

powerbatsAug 30, 20151 votes

So how is Ahri ulting in to get you any different from you ulting in and to get someone? Ahri has to land that charm you only have to point and click to get that auto kill. You're pretty much guaranteed to kill someone when you ult in, she has to hit her charm which has a much lower cc duration than before. You can't miss your Alpha strike or ult, she can miss that charm and Foxfire is pretty worthless since it will usually hit minions or only you one. You will hit your target guaranteed multiple times.

Why not try playing her and diving into a melee team comp with cc and see what happens, as Yi you can live as Ahri your usually dead.

PiVoRxAug 30, 20151 votes

wat? do you realise how many fail sentences you got there? comparing soloq troll pick to lcs priority pick doesent work well for you really... ahri have shitload of ways to exit a team fight while yi can like.. Q, and thats all? she misses her charm and what? she got another in 8 seconds and when you get hit by it you are done.

wow...

powerbatsAug 31, 20151 votes

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wat? do you realise how many fail sentences you got there? comparing soloq troll pick to lcs priority pick doesent work well for you really... ahri have shitload of ways to exit a team fight while yi can like.. Q, and thats all? she misses her charm and what? she got another in 8 seconds and when you get hit by it you are done.

wow...

Where again did I say anything about LCS, oh that's right no where. The only person putting so may failing sentences together here is you. So Yi can't use his ult to exit a team fight, convenient how you left that out there. Ahri only has her ult and that's provided she's not either already dead or hasn't used all the charges up or isn't cc'd. Her q gives her a short boost of speed for about 2 seconds before it becomes useless in escaping that team fight. You can use your ult to keep running since you can't be slowed unlike Ahri.

You have a 365 base movement speed, Ahri has 330 which means you have more movement speed and your ult makes you even faster. If Ahri's so great why don't you main her for 1k games instead of YI or is having to play a champ that requires you to use skill shots too difficult?