So game designers running out of ideas so they give steal abilities

ValiantKiller··9 votes·2,216 views

So far the last 4 new champions that been released either a lazy enhanced version of champions like MonkeyKing W and Neeko W or Pyke ult chain Q to Thresh Q and his ult to Darius ult. Or if that not working we got Zoe to steal champions summoners spells and Q that match old Nidalee Q while Sylas just copy paste your ult plus haivng Camille hook thing. Yep game designers seem like they out of ideas , enjoy the same broken cycle of high banned rate new champions while all new champions that will be released will be a lazy copy of old one.

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Ferrinova3 votes

yeah i think they are just trying to scrape what money they can now.

ValiantKiller2 votes

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yeah i think they are just trying to scrape what money they can now.

They could spend more time on reworking or fixing champions but nah got to release more not needed champions.

MissMikasa3 votes

Agreed 100%. I wish I could call for a firing here but the mods won’t tolerate it -.-

Time to add another abomination to my ban list. For forever I just banned Zed but then Pyke and Neeko came.

Now I have to add Sylas the overloaded cancerous piece of shit to the list too, and I can only use on ban.

UGH.

Riot pisses me off so much.

ValiantKiller1 votes

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Agreed 100%. I wish I could call for a firing here but the mods won’t tolerate it -.-

Time to add another abomination to my ban list. For forever I just banned Zed but then Pyke and Neeko came.

Now I have to add Sylas the overloaded cancerous piece of shit to the list too, and I can only use on ban.

UGH.

Riot pisses me off so much.

It not about banned , it more about a just lazy copying

ChaddyFantome2 votes

by that logic, Ahri Q wa a lazy copy of Sivir Q

Weiss Guertena2 votes

Sylas is going to be League's 144th champion. If it's so easy, you try designing a character in a way that he is completely different from 143 other and at the same time can be made balanced in the same game as them.

Also, if you are going to nitpick like that ("these two abilities are skillshots and both on Q bkey so they are the same even if they aren't at all!"), then isn't Jhin's Q just Fiddle E without silence? Isn't Neeko's E just Zyra's E with extra steps? Ahri's Q is just a copy of Sivir's Q. Draven's Q is just a copy of Olaf's Q too - after all, both abilities involve throwing an axe!

ValiantKiller2 votes

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Sylas is going to be League's 144th champion. If it's so easy, you try designing a character in a way that he is completely different from 143 other and at the same time can be made balanced in the same game as them.

Also, if you are going to nitpick like that ("these two abilities are skillshots and both on Q bkey so they are the same even if they aren't at all!"), then isn't Jhin's Q just Fiddle E without silence? Isn't Neeko's E just Zyra's E with extra steps? Ahri's Q is just a copy of Sivir's Q. Draven's Q is just a copy of Olaf's Q too - after all, both abilities involve throwing an axe!

Ahri got unique passive and 2 unique abilities and 1 ult while zoe legit got q coped and w stealing summoner spell while pyke most of his kit is complete coped from other champions seem goes for Neeko

Weiss Guertena1 votes

Please, show me the ability that Zoe's Q is a copy of. Show me another projectile that can completely change its trajectory mid-flight for trick-shots. Show me another ability whose optimal usage is throwing it in a completely opposite direction first. Her W might be just "spell stealing" but it's a unique thing no other champion can do... even though its impact on overall game health is debatable.

Even then "shoot a thing that does something when it hits" is going to be the most common ability due to the way the game works. What about Ezreal's Q? Isn't it just a Nidalee Q scaling with AD? Isn't Morgana's Q just Nidalee Q that roots? And it can still be way different due to kit it belongs to. Nid Q enables her to jump in for a melee-ranged finisher when it connects. Ezreal relies on his to poke and reduce cooldowns. Morgana uses hers to set allies up.

And I'll ask it of you again: create a completely unique champion that would work without being useless or broken. Don't give them a skillshot that does something when it collides with an enemy. Don't give them a dash. Don't give them an execute. Nothing that already exists. Prove me wrong and I'll gladly eat my own words.

ValiantKiller1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Weiss Guertena,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=GEOboLLv,comment-id=000400000000,timestamp=2019-01-09T19:34:22.580+0000)

Please, show me the ability that Zoe's Q is a copy of. Show me another projectile that can completely change its trajectory mid-flight for trick-shots. Show me another ability whose optimal usage is throwing it in a completely opposite direction first. Her W might be just "spell stealing" but it's a unique thing no other champion can do... even though its impact on overall game health is debatable.

Even then "shoot a thing that does something when it hits" is going to be the most common ability due to the way the game works. What about Ezreal's Q? Isn't it just a Nidalee Q scaling with AD? Isn't Morgana's Q just Nidalee Q that roots? And it can still be way different due to kit it belongs to. Nid Q enables her to jump in for a melee-ranged finisher when it connects. Ezreal relies on his to poke and reduce cooldowns. Morgana uses hers to set allies up.

And I'll ask it of you again: create a completely unique champion that would work without being useless or broken. Don't give them a skillshot that does something when it collides with an enemy. Don't give them a dash. Don't give them an execute. Nothing that already exists. Prove me wrong and I'll gladly eat my own words.

And what makes you think that my post is talking about making new champion? My post clearly point out that they at the bottleneck of creaking new champions then why waste their time on making broken op champion instead fixing old champions and reworked the old champions?

D357R0Y3R1 votes

i was going to upvote you until you compared zoe's Q to nidalee Q

ValiantKiller2 votes

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i was going to upvote you until you compared zoe's Q to nidalee Q

I mean everyone said her Q match old Nid Q, so yah.

I don't know about that part so i just put it there, correct me if i'm wrong

shlack3212 votes

The thing about Zoe's Q is that you could boost the damage artificially by extending your distance from your target AFTER you fired it off. Just like how Nidalee's old Q used to work.

ValiantKiller2 votes

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The thing about Zoe's Q is that you could boost the damage artificially by extending your distance from your target AFTER you fired it off. Just like how Nidalee's old Q used to work.

That is my point then which make it valid, that is last improved copy paste

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