yauso needs more windows for counterplay

SwiftKitten88··4 votes·946 views

its not that he doesn't have counterplay,, its just that he has an answer to every time his window is up.

take for example.. his passive

to trade yasuo you need to auto him wait for his passive to fall off then go in, but then he has a windwall

but he also has windwall, which does have a long cooldown can can be played around,

he also has his tornado.. which is easily dodged, except he can use it during his dash for a point and click cc

and when his windwall is down he is still a pain to hit with a skillshot because of his dash, which forces you to play AWAY from the normal "safety" of your minions"

i mean sure he has is weaknesses.. but every he always has something else up to cover that.

take syndra for example

if she misses her stun.. she has NO means of escape for 15 seconds

take nidalee... if a spear misses... her damage for the next 6 seconds is going to be complete trash, and if you get in her face she is FORCED to retreat because she needs her hunted passive to deal remotely decent damage and her spear does almost nothing at point blank range.

even champs like Warwick who have answers to MOST situations.. still are laughable when fighting champs like Ashe who can constantly slow them, and other champs can still play around his E and his VERY long ulti cooldown.

Lux needs her entirely 3 abilty combo to 1 shot somone which although does have a short cooldown if her ulti gets reset still leaves at least a 10 second window where she has nothing.

Blitzcrank pull is ABSURDLY wide and is near impossible to dodge if your out in the open even with a dash, but staying near minions makes it near impossible for him to hit you with it and it has a very long cooldown

yasuo while in THOERY has skills that have cooldowns and counterplay.. really doesn't have any when in the hand of someone knowing how to play the champsion.

there are no "windows of opportunity" to go in UNLESS said player makes a mistake THEM-SELF.

during seaosn 4 when i played nidalee mid lane.... i would win against yasuo about 80% of the time in fact.. i won against 100% of the yausos who did NOT properly use the knock-up on thier dash

but at the same time those 20% who DID use it... i had 100% loss rate vs

unless yasuo HIMSELF fucks up.. and keep in mind... its yasuo... having them fuck up isn't something that's all too uncommon.

but UNLESS they do... you cant stop them. then when they hit 2 items.. it almost donest matter even if they DO fuck up as long as don't COMPLETELY fuck up.

9 Comments

Dreadlocks3 votes

One of the biggest buffs yasuo has gotten over the years is enemy champions losing point and click abilities :)

Mordepool3 votes

That's one BIG part of his "Supposed" Rework that he's getting.

Honestly I think he should apply a self slow after EVERY Dash

SwiftKitten881 votes

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That's one BIG part of his "Supposed" Rework that he's getting.

Honestly I think he should apply a self slow after EVERY Dash

even something as siple as givgn his dashe charges like he can store 2/3/4/5/6 dashes recharging every 7 seconds

or even like store 4 and recharge 8/7/6/5/4

420 grams1 votes

Don't even bother dude, he's not getting changed.

HKT Saber1 votes

Technically there is, as you could just deal enough damage to ignore his shield While his shield is really annoying to deal with, yasuo also has one of the lowest hp stats of any melee champion. His windwall is what prevents you from 100 to 0'ing him, so you want to burn that before jungle ganks As for hitting skillshots against his dash, just don't do so. Keep your key abilities for when he goes for cs and burst him down. You still have the advantage of being a ranged champion that can cs from far away (usually), and as long as you keep denying him cs/poking him while he cs', you should be able to go even or even ahead in gold and exp.

The only time you shouldn't do this is if your champion scales poorly. If so, then you're gonna have to try to harass him by threatening to kill him every time whilst staying on the side of the lane with your jungler there (so Pantheon mid and Talon)

The above is just my personal opinion, mid is not my main role, and I do not have much experience in playing ranged champions against yasuo.

Krully1 votes

i counter play him by banning him

Dope Solo1 votes
  1. Ban/dodge.
  2. Enjoy game.
heroikc1 votes

Try Poppy; W blocks his dash, E him into a wall, Q to damage, etc.

SwiftKitten881 votes

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Try Poppy; W blocks his dash, E him into a wall, Q to damage, etc.

picking a hardcounter cant be the only "counteplay"

i mean hell you can pick any bruiser in the game and Nidalee is never going to pounce in on you (and survive)

but she still has counterplay outside of that.

picking a hardcopunter is great and i understand there should be some champs that CAN'T deal with yas as he hardcounters THEM. but having a hardcount be the ONLY choice... isnt viable... we can't ALL pick poppy

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