I can't wait until all these "OP" junglers get nerfed.

Ser Garland··3 votes·514 views

Then I can hear all about how "broken" Sejuani is with a gapcloser/knockup combo tied to one ability, an Aoe hard cc ability, and tons of burst damage late game while remaining super tanky.

Or how Hecarim can basically run circles around an enemy while having absurd amounts of sustain and damage.

Or how Aatrox basically gets a ton of utility for zero mana costs, yet also has an absurdly good clear time.

Or how Nautilus no longer needs to build pure health to have an outrageously large shield

Then I can't wait until those champions get nerfed. Then I can hear all about how Shaco is borderline impossible to kill/catch and "riot pls don't make me buy a pink ward!"

Or how Warwick STILL has an absurdly long suppression

Or how Pantheon just flat out hard counters some champions and his spear is undodgeable.

Then I can't wait until those champions get nerfed. Then I can hear all about how Evelynn is seeing the most play in the LCS.

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Droogzy2 votes

I would at least be happy to have a cycle of different champions become used and powerful at different points as oppose to what we have now which is usually the same champions over and over with a few FOTM picks here and there.

I can also tell based on your description of some of the champions that you've never even tried them or seen them in action.

Ser Garland1 votes

Most of the champions I mentioned are ones I still actively play, some of which I've noticed got significant creeping buffs over the last few patches that no one has seemed to notice. As far as what's deemed meta strong now. The only one in that list that I main is J4. but I prefer to take him top over in the jungle, because a smart jungler can counter jungle J4 early and leave his problematic ganking in the dust.

Erockandroll2 votes

Have you even notice that people complain about champs in the roles no one plays.

"Riot destroyed the Jungle, I'm going to got top, mid, etc" -> "WTF fix Lee, J4, (insert Broken jungler here)"

Similar to last season.

"OMG, supports only get carried." -> "Morg's hitbox, Janna's safty, Better nerf sona."

stuartk112 votes

I can't wait either. I'm glad that you share my enthusiasm.

Yeah, Jarvan 4 has already seen the spotlight for most of Season 3 along with Lee Sin, then Lee Sin and Elise in Season 4, Then Lee Sin and Jarvan going into Season 5. This is not exactly a diverse selection of Jungle champions, and is way too stagnant for the Jungle to be called a Healthy role in its current state.

Zazusha1 votes

Every champ can be OP at one point, the problem is a select number of champs have been for too long. Also Riot's track record for nerfing ("balancing" as they call it) isn't the best.

They either nerf a champ to oblivion (see WW's nerfs this past pre-season, or Lucian's last season) or they dish out small nerfs one at a time, that have little to no impact (See anything they do to LeeSin, and the 'Nerf' to Zed where they lowered a fraction of his Atk speed).

Ser Garland1 votes

The reasoning I see behind riot not nerfing this current slew of "OP" champions is that a large majority use their bread and butter engages and trades as skill shots. In competitive play, it's not unheard of to bait juke a Lee Sin Q.

Remember when Kayle was "broken" she had a targeted slow followed by an onslaught of targeted E infused auto attacks and an ult that came off cool down every 30 seconds.

I mained Kayle last year and even I agreed that it was BS. I could still get away with murder by maxing her Q over her E and building a stinger right after nashors tooth. -That- was BS. Ryze was BS. 4:20 Warwick was BS.

The fact that no one even mentioned Lee or J4 or Vi, or even Zed last year, just that they were always "around" speaks that we've dealt with a lot of bs champions and are now left with the question of "should we nerf the next tier of champions?" those that were once deemed healthy?

DollaMenunaire1 votes

Alrighty boys, now that we have an "Aatrox is OP" thread, we have thus reached our goal of having a "champ X is OP" thread for every single champion in the game.

Pat yourselves on the back, you've earned it

SlytherinUmbreon1 votes

Nautilus is truly, truly outrageous. Taric

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