Well, I guess that is one way to get Lissandra more gameplay....

JavelinJoe··2 votes·397 views

Really RITO, a hair physics buff? How about getting her a normal AP mage's mana regen and then worry about how it flows in the wind. She has a max rank regen of 12.5 / 5 seconds. Compare that to any other ability spam mage (who uses mana) like for example, Lux, who has 19.6 / 5 seconds and who (let's be reasonable here) spams abilities a lot less because she works around combos and Lissandra is lower by over 1 point / second.

Before you say, but her passive gives her a free ability, lets check on our friend Nunu who also has a similar passive. Yep higher ending mana regen (15.9 / 5 seconds).

Here's the best part. Let's look at someone who only uses abilities because they are needing to either change positionings or there is a team fight. Vayne. I don't believe it. Her too. She has an end mana regen of 13.8 / 5 seconds.

Let's step back a second. You may be asking "but he abilities surely are cost effective to compensate the low mana regen right". Wrong! She has some of the most costly abilities, especially in the early game.

  • 85 mana for a Q. Ziggs and Lux have a Q cost of 50 mana and a max of 70 mana. Hell even Karthus has better cost efficiency here (20-44).
  • Her W is actually pretty good at a static 50 mana, but when the cd is 10+ and it has a range of 450, how often does this ability even get used outside of team fights and wave clear? Put the high mana cost here since she never needs to spam it.
  • E is normalish at 85-100 but again, you use it a lot to travel, poke, juke, engage, etc... so the cost can build up over time.
  • R is the only ability who has a normal standard cost of a fixed 100 mana like many AP mages have.

Seriously, she might be the most mana starved champion in the game (haven't gone through all 100 and whatever to check but I am fairly sure at least in the AP Mage category she is).

6 Comments

Critmaster Garen2 votes

why are you comparing her to mid laners?

we all know where she will show up if she was to get a slight buff.

JavelinJoe1 votes

I compared her to mana based AP spamming champions. And Lissandra can be mid lane. But fine. Ekko has a higher ending mana regen and has lower costs for most abilities. Teemo has the same deal of higher end mana regen, his Q is higher but his E is free and the other 2 are lower. Happy?

ModWulf Helhammer1 votes

Do you not know what lissandra' passive is?

Nvm, you do, you just don't seem to get it.

JavelinJoe1 votes

Passives should either be mechanical or a buff or some sort, not a cover up for a low stat.

4th Chiming Lamb1 votes

Hair physics are fucking AWESOME in games, though. I can spend literally hours in Fallout 4 getting haircuts in Diamond City, running and jumping around to see how the hair physics act. Funnily enough, hair IRL doesn't have the same effect of "OMFG swaying hair!" on me. Even twirling some character models in X-COM just has me holding the right stick left for minutes at a time. Real life hair, though? It's hair. Meh.

Anyone know why the hell that happens to me?!?!?

LiveYiOrDieHard1 votes

Liss already stomps pretty much any melee in top lane when played correctly.

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