So why is it the general consensus that Camille has zero counterplay and needs to be gutted?

Arcyyy··4 votes·828 views

Anything with any sort of peel renders Camille completely useless. Or if you're VS high burst champions you just get killed instantly when you try to ult someone. Or if it's vs a full team of 5 you get collapsed on and die. But the one time you use your ultimate right and the person that was caught out genuinely deserved to die, it's fucking cancer that has zero counterplay.

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LyingOnLine6 votes

Because she had 0 counterplay and needed to be gutted.

Geshultz5 votes

because Camille basically was released with a toxic kit in the fact that she was basically had multiple forms of cc and the ability to gurantee a champion can't escape an area of the map. She also had low cooldown mobility that was long ranged and a strong laning phase along with high burst for a diver. It basically was because her kit is overloaded with damage, mobility, and damage and tankiness that if she is ever viable she is highly toxic to the game by the fact that she basically does the job of all divers better and would invalidate a bunch of divers from having any chance of usage along with assassins.

God Raijin2 votes

She has the whole Yasuo syndrome about her. I think a lot of people just hate her even if she's not broken.

Warlord Scrap1 votes

yas isnt played to high efficiency in 4 positions in the lcs like camille though 1 maybe 2 positions. And riot balances the game around high elo and lcs.

God Raijin1 votes

To be fair, OP said "general consensus" in the title.

For reference, Diamond is apparently the top 1ish% of players, according to Op.gg, even in diamond tier, camille only has a 50.11% winrate in the last 7 days, and every elo below diamond she has an even lower winrate. 45.8% in platinum for example. Hell, even in master tier she only has a 49.57%

So she is actually literally balanced or even underpowered according to winrates when she is playing with 99.9% of the playerbase

At the end of the day, perhaps, she might be too strong; but, virtually none of the actual players (the 99.9%) are having to actually play against the "hands" of the players who make her "too strong" (LCS players)

In other words, most players who think she is too good to play against IN THEIR GAMES, **are talking out their ass **

Warlord Scrap1 votes

I understand the winrate as well as the elo system. But yas gets alot of hate even from riot camille has the lcs and as we all no whatever is op in the lcs/streams is gonna be portrayed as op. Then there the solo que terrors which are only good in solo que but never good against coordinated team comps.

God Raijin1 votes

Yeah everything you said I agree with, I just think virtually everyone complaining about her is just being a bandwagoner because she was too good in the challenger stream they just watched.

Like yeah, if you are a challenger player or a pro player it makes sense to complain about her being too good because the players who's hands shes in is causing her to win too many games.

I mean, at the end of the day, unless you are playing against a smurf, she should theoretically be giving you a higher chance of winning the game just by the fact that a lower elo player picked her. So I don't see what all the fuss is about.

Warlord Scrap1 votes

While theoretically yes your forgetting to put the physcological/tilt factor in. Let take teemo for instance because in my mind he exemplifies this. Hes just annpying as hell too deal with. Hes mot strong and definately not op but everything in his kit is just an annoyance. If he gets ahead you cany outrun him. He basically says screw you autoattacking and his mushrooms are physchological warfare but yet hes so easy to beat.

Kilanost2 votes

I hate camille but that last round of nerfs was uncalled for.

Calabok2 votes

yes. gut her

Hexs Fortune1 votes

The community permabanned her until she was gutted.

The people have spoken

Popularfoil9101 votes

They still ban her like she's fucking broken she's the 6th most banned champion right now

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