A Nidalee main's look at pbe nid changes

SwiftKitten88··1 votes·294 views

the pbe nid changed have currently gone through many iterations.

it is very clear that riot want to buff nidalee at lower elos and nerf her at higher elos since the removal of her auto attack reset on her R

and since Nidalee doesn't even REACH a 50% win rate until plat elo this is sorely needed

I'm goign to ignore the first 2 sets of nidalee changes because those were a complete disaster and focus on the last 2 changes

the 7/15 changes i thought accomplished this very well

Human FORM Javelin Toss (Q) Minimum damage changed to 70/85/100/115/130 from 60/77.5/95/112.5/130 Maximum damage changed to 210/255/300/345/390 from 180/232.5/285/337.5/390 Aspect of the Cougar (R) No longer resets Nidalee's basic attack.

COUGAR FORM:

    Takedown (Q)
       Minimum damage changed to 20/40/60/80 from 4/20/50/90
       Maximum damage changed to 40/90/150/220 from 8/45/125/248
        AP ratio increased to 40% from 36%
       Damage versus Hunted targets increased to 40% from 33%
  Aspect of the Cougar (R)
      No longer resets Nidalee's basic attack.

the 7/19 changes get nerf takedown nerfed to (from the 7/15 nid changes)

Cougar

Takedown (Q) Minimum damage changed to 5/30/55/80 from 4/20/50/90 Maximum damage changed to 10/67.5/137.5/220 from 8/45/125/248 Ap ratio increased to 40% from 36% Damage versus Hunted targets increased to 40% from 33%

now while i DO agree with the removal of the auto attack resets i still feel this is a nerf to her clear speed. she is getting ONE extra damage on takedown.. and she is 10 extra damage on a spear.

i don't have a pbe account so someone who does play nidalee and has a pbe account might be able to confirm this for me. but the extra added really isn't enough to offset the 2 auto attacks resets that got removed.

i AGREE that the auto resets need to be removed. but i feel instead of buffing her spear and her takedown damage (which would also make her stronger vs players) i think we should re-add the root to jungle mobs. as THIS was the issue that made her low elo win rate drop to below 45%. this would make her clear SAFER. but without the extra damage from the resets.. it will be MUCH slower.

which i believe the the best thing to do because at lower elo, clearing the jungle with enough HP to gank is the main issue.. while in higher elo its her clear SPEED that is an issue.

i think if we re-add the root but remove the resets it would improve her clear safety but lower her clear speed. then she wouldn't need a buff to her spear or her takedown which would also affect her damage vs players.

2 Comments

Cloud2731 votes

Nidalee is sitting at about a 50% win rate in plat+ games, and she's still a decent pick in LCS (although not nearly as dominant as she used to be). Personally I think she's perfect the way she is. Just leave her alone.

SwiftKitten881 votes

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Nidalee is sitting at about a 50% win rate in plat+ games, and she's still a decent pick in LCS (although not nearly as dominant as she used to be). Personally I think she's perfect the way she is. Just leave her alone.

while she may be perfect at higher elos, she is REALLY bad at the lower elos. and while she IS a high skill champ. there is no reason to be below 40% on 3 of your roles (if you even want to consider her old laning roles) and have your best role at 44%.

and in master and challenger she is just downright OP. i think a nerf to her high elo mechanics and a buff to her lower elos is perfect. i just don't think that current iteration is going to be a buff to lower elos vs jungle mobs.. which is the issue.. she DOESN'T need a buff vs players which is what i feel like she is getting. she needs a safer EASIER clear. and i feel that buffing her skill damage instead of her early clear safety is the wrong way to go about this

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