nothing changed, moving on
nerf to support brand, buff to AP brand alright I will take it.
only change that makes sense, buffing the part that makes you pick shyvana over other junglers, good.
still has a gamebreaking ultimate, will still be pick/ban
hahahahahaha, HAHAHAHAHA
the shy top30 votesReverting 8.1 brand buffs a year later. So you're meaning to tell me his winrate was bumped +4% and stayed like that for a year?
Balance team makes me want to harm something.
DragonShea11 votes[{quoted}](name=the shy top,realm=OCE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Fmbs8YXB,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-01-10T22:11:03.807+0000)
Reverting 8.1 brand buffs a year later. So you're meaning to tell me his winrate was bumped +4% and stayed like that for a year?
Balance team makes me want to harm something.
Harm them, they are the guilty ones.
Sewer Side3 votesHarm them, they are the guilty ones.
Super not cool, bro
Nevrankroaton4 votesIt is one of the most cringe post I saw here. Might want to reconsider your life if you come to write bs like this over balance in a video game.
Saianna1 votesbe careful mate, this post can get you banned.... I'm serious.
DragonShea4 votesbe careful mate, this post can get you banned.... I'm serious.
Just proves people are thin-skinned. It's a joke.
But then again, why try and explain that to people that have taken it too seriously and can be convinced otherwise.
Saianna6 votesI agree with you, but I just talk from experience here. Mod wanted to permaban me for somewhat similar comment. Snowflake era takes its ~~tool ~~ toll on the intelligence of vulnerable minds.
DragonShea1 votesI agree with you, but I just talk from experience here. Mod wanted to permaban me for somewhat similar comment. Snowflake era takes its tool on the intelligence of vulnerable minds.
Out of respect it's Toll, not tool. But if they want to permaban me, then I'd say bring it, All it show's is an abuse of power and hard evidence that the Mod's are scum. It's not me that is escalating it, it's them. Why? Because proves that anyone working at riot can't handle criticism, so they ignore it and that what actually land is tantamount to physical violence, which isn't. It was a joke about someone wanting who said he wanted to _FIGURATIVELY _ harm someone and I joke about directing that his wrath towards Riot knowing that the dude didn't mean it literally.
If people can't see the difference between a joke and a threat, then they deserve ridiculous of the highest order.
Saianna1 votesBut if they want to permaban me, then I'd say bring it, All it show's is an abuse of power and hard evidence that the Mod's are scum.
Well then, if they do: you gotta visit their discord help channel, ask for consult with a mod (and make sure it wont be the same mod that banned you, as it was in my case, or you'll be talking with 'i know better' brick wall). Then talk with him about the matter.
Have in mind that if you get banned, there's no commotion. You simply dissapear. Reddit insta-removes those threads, so you won't get any attention there. And the main chain of Riot support was like "lol, not our business, go fix it somewhere else, bye".
That's all from my experience.
Saianna2 votesHey mate, juast wanted to tell you something funny. Not that long ago after this conversation I was banned for 14 days from boards for saying (add drums sound)....................
snowflake
I also got very obvious message, that there is no more "warnings" for me.
Due to the severity of your actions, we have decided to issue a final warning
I've gone to talk with a mod. Nope, snowflake is the greatest offense one might utter it seems. He was even surprised I wasn't perma banned from the start.
9 years with this game. And I am finnaly done. I just can't no more. Snwoflake era is exhausting to live in.
Sewer Side1 votes[{quoted}](name=the shy top,realm=OCE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Fmbs8YXB,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-01-10T22:11:03.807+0000) Balance team makes me want to harm something.
Not cool bro.
LeSpanked3 votesto be fair his winrate across most ranks was about 46.5% at the time so something was needed
Lhuhz15 votes
nerf omegaLUL
They removed the true vision, what a fucking joke.
Lhuhz10 votesI'll copy pasta a comment from reddit about Shyvanna buff:
They legit buffed Shyvana's meme part of her meme passive lmao, thanks for nothing Riot
Nevrankroaton2 votesIf you could all fucking wait for surrender at 20 to get all the info. They nerfed the duration and the dmg on the dot too.
LTK KoRo7 votes5% more AS for Jarvan won't be enough to make him 100% meta again, but it for sure will help with his jungle clear, i like this change
Nevrankroaton1 votesI feel it is the safe bet to make him better. People always ask to not buff his dmg and his issue came more with his cleaning. At worse they can buff just a little his base armor or hp so he is more competitive in the jungle.
Warlord Rhinark6 votesThese joke nerfs are hilarious.
First it was - 3 Base AD on Graves.
Then it was - 5 Base Movement Speed on Irelia.
Then it was - 10 damage on LeBlanc W.
Now it's - 0.5 AD Growth on Urgot.
What's next?
Rathar Dashing13 votes-0.2% attack speed on Camille
Infernape1 votes+0.25 seconds on Zoe's Q
Nevrankroaton6 votesIf you dont think rakan w/r combo being nerf is pretty big to actually give time to people to flash/disengage him, you shouldnt talk ever about balance.
For J4, it is a qol buff for early. 5%as is nothing to laugh at. It is one or two auto by camp meaning you kill it faster meaning you take less damage and meaning you have a quicker clear time too.
Urgot I would have make it from 4 to 3, I say that as an urgot main. See what it does but 3,5 is too nice.
The rest you didnt wait for surrender at 20 to get all the info, as usual in this damn moronic section. They nerf the dmg and duration. Maplenectar also shared the ignite nerf and it is good nerf (bigger cd, little less dmg dmg and way lower at lvl 18).
Stop making gamrplay board upvote farm ffs...
D357R0Y3R3 votesIf you dont think rakan w/r combo being nerf is pretty big to actually give time to people to flash/disengage him,
it doesn't, from 2000 speed to 1400 speed means instead of taking 0.5 sec to reach 1000 range he will take ~~0.7 sec, IT DOES NOT DO ANYTHING
Nevrankroaton5 votesIt is HUGE, are you insane? It mean he doesnt benefit from his ult MS bonus too or celerity or any MS bonus from items, it mean that rakan can't freaking R/W at light speed. It is what made him so strong in pro play and made him have so much nerf in the first place.
As someone said, when Leblanc W has 1600 MS on her W and they reduced the speed to 1300, it felt so bad for her combo that they rebuffed her to 1450MS... You are properly insane if you think it doesn't do anything.
It is as quick as a charged Vi Q, you flash that on reaction EASILY.
Profirix1 votesRakan has a steady 45% win rate in plat + now. You don't even have to think about it now and you can dodge his W. It was way too hard of a nerf. He needed one, but now hes paper and can't reliably CC.
Fire Blaustoise4 votes
really disappointed about this change... but at least it buff his clear (its the spell you max in jng)
Not too soon.
True... but i doubt it'll be enough for the high elo and competitive. And unless the meta change, i can't see her becoming thing (i can see her if game is slowed).
You will found some saying its actualy big.
Abibyama II3 votesIt's actually big, there I said it where's my cookie?
Fire Blaustoise1 votes[garen-swing]
D357R0Y3R1 votes[{quoted}](name=Fire Blaustoise,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Fmbs8YXB,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-01-10T21:00:46.943+0000)
really disappointed about this change... but at least it buff his clear (its the spell you max in jng)
Not at all? you always maxed Q with j4 since 2011, when did it change?
True... but i doubt it'll be enough for the high elo and competitive. And unless the meta change, i can't see her becoming thing (i can see her if game is slowed).
It's still smart, maybe it's not enough but touching that part was necessary
You will found some saying its actualy big.
You will find people saying that Galio got gutted after his last buffs
Fire Blaustoise2 votesNot at all? you always maxed Q with j4 since 2011, when did it change?
nevermind, my mistake. my memory is flawed cause we start E.
You will find people saying that Galio got gutted after his last buffs
i saw some on Reddit [sg-miss-fortune]
Moonscourge2 votesHe gave a % they are aiming at and they are most likely going to hit it with those changes so what's your point?
That entire "LOL 5 AD" meme is based on the community being dumb, since that particular nerf that spawned it essentially removed Top lane Nidalee that was domination for a long time entirely.
Fire Blaustoise1 votesThat entire "LOL 5 AD" meme is based on the community being dumb, since that particular nerf that spawned it essentially removed Top lane Nidalee that was domination for a long time entirely.
Nidalee ?? are you talking about this change ?
V4.17 General Attack damage reduced to 44 from 49. Attack speed reduced to 0.638 from 0.670.
So... can we take in account this (on same patch)
Takedown Takedown Minimum AD ratio reduced to (+ 75% AD) from (+ 100% AD). Maximum AD ratio reduced to (+ 187.5% AD) from (+ 250% AD). Prowl Hunt Maximum AD ratio reduced to (+ 250% AD) from (+ 333% AD).
And yeah many underestimate -5 AD... but most of time its not the case. I laugh at this change cause its not enough, same like the -5 ms was useless on Irelia but would be big on a champion like Wukong or Pantheon. You are clearly delusional if you think it'll fix anything. Remind of the ones saying Urgot was just strong due to Tonic Warp runes... guess what ? after nerf, he is still top tier. Just want to sound smart "it seems nothing for plebs, but its actualy a big nerf".
D357R0Y3R1 votesthere is a HUGE HUGE difference between -5 AD and -0.5 AD/lvl especially on a champion who doesn't care about late game like Urgot
2Charmnot2Charm2 votes
If he is talking about THIS Rakan bug then he is full of it.
I can't believe Rakan had this bug for the entire year and he still was a relevant pick.
CHODES AND LOADS2 votesrakan ult is """gamebreaking"""
aight i didnt know a bog standard cc ult was GAMEBREAKING but ok
Eternal Torment1 votesJarvan's buff could speed up his jungle clear by an inch since usually you start with E as your first skill.
His early clears are going to go up, even if by just a little bit. 10 seconds across 4 camps is still a huge win in time-consumption if you have to play pro-active or even aggressive.
Errastas1 votesEveryday you complain about another 1-2 champions that are broken
Alzon1 votesYou gotta remember, Jarvan gets that attack speed buff passively, plus in an aura around the flag’s location. This means he effectively gains 10% more Attack Speed, and the buff to allies grants 5% more. I’d say that’s a pretty big buff. Helps not only his clear and dueling, but his team’s sieging and objective taking by a respectable margin.
