I can't play my champions anymore i fucking hate this meta

UdoIkOSc4u··7 votes·2,570 views

This is the worst time for the league of legend balance most of the champions are completely unviable i mean i want play olaf darius? GOOD LUCK CATCHING THAT KALISTA,and i have to play under tower otherwise that overpowered oppresive toxic piece of shit avoid nerfs of lee sin is gonna came and kill i want to play same toplane champion with good early game like renekton olaf darius? LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL here you are against a ranged toplaner ready to bully you hard and outscale you hard or there is gnar having their kit lelelele oh and you can't even push or j4 is gonna gank you hard cause lel you haven't mobility,now lets see botlane DRAVEN,KOG MAW,MISS FORTUNE ,VARUS,lelelel ahahhaha omg hahahahahahhahah fucking noobs that pick those championjs there is kalista ready to outclass them all having a free jump with 0 cdahahhhahahahh how you even dare and they suck even harder in tf cause they got j4/VI and they can't push cause lee sin is gonna give them pure cancer,mid? how you even dare play brand loolololololololololol or if you want you have to farm under tower otherwise you are gonna get ass raped by that zed and lee sin,and in the jungle?????????' VI/LEE/J4 the others can't even clear the fucking jungle RIOT SAID THIS SEASON PURPOSE WAS FOR THE DIFFERENT STRATEGIES YET ONLY CHAMPIONS WITH HIGH MOBILITY ARE PLAYABLE

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Saruyan6 votes

unless you are at the highest levels of ranked play, what you pick really doesnt matter as long as you are good at them.

UdoIkOSc4u1 votes

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unless you are at the highest levels of ranked play, what you pick really doesnt matter as long as you are good at them.

not really when the enemy has lee sin j4 i'm forced to play undertower if haven't a lot of mobility

Raptamei1 votes

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unless you are at the highest levels of ranked play, what you pick really doesnt matter as long as you are good at them.

It matters. Unless you like to get reported.

Dragfin1 votes

And that report does what exactly?

rth26 votes

Usually I don't comment on this but here is the thing. You can play ANY champ to challenger. If you are good enough at the game you can move up. Challenger has a lot of people that are considered "One Trick Ponies". There are people like DaBox who has been in challenger for seasons and mains Veigar. If Veigar is open he will play him. You have Ryan Choi a.k.a. Rengar's Grandfather. LastSkarnerNA mained skarner season 3 and 4 (Masters Level). You can go into client, open up the current challenger/masters lists, and search through the non-lcs (also non challenger trying to get to lcs teams) and see many examples of people who play 1 champion predominately, and have done that for seasons.

These players do not fall out of challenger just because their champion is no longer (or never was) a meta pick. They stay in the top tiers because they know the game, they know how to play, they have game knowledge, and they have mastered the basics of the game. If you enjoy a champion an incredible amount, you will learn how to play them even against their "counter picks". Hi Im Gosu is not afraid to play Vayne versus a Caitlyn as he knows when the match can go in his favor and how to play that match out.

Hopefully this sheds some light on the topic of champion picks. One champion may be stronger than another at certain points of the game, but game knowledge and skill is what will allow you to beat that flavor of the month or top tier champion.

Dragfin2 votes

Common sense and logic don't work with most of the people that post on here. I however agree 100% with you because I have common sense and logic and say the same things all the time.

RogueWill1 votes

Problem is when one of your champions suddenly becomes meta and you shiver in terror as you know the nerf are coming

UdoIkOSc4u1 votes

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Usually I don't comment on this but here is the thing. You can play ANY champ to challenger. If you are good enough at the game you can move up. Challenger has a lot of people that are considered "One Trick Ponies". There are people like DaBox who has been in challenger for seasons and mains Veigar. If Veigar is open he will play him. You have Ryan Choi a.k.a. Rengar's Grandfather. LastSkarnerNA mained skarner season 3 and 4 (Masters Level). You can go into client, open up the current challenger/masters lists, and search through the non-lcs (also non challenger trying to get to lcs teams) and see many examples of people who play 1 champion predominately, and have done that for seasons.

These players do not fall out of challenger just because their champion is no longer (or never was) a meta pick. They stay in the top tiers because they know the game, they know how to play, they have game knowledge, and they have mastered the basics of the game. If you enjoy a champion an incredible amount, you will learn how to play them even against their "counter picks". Hi Im Gosu is not afraid to play Vayne versus a Caitlyn as he knows when the match can go in his favor and how to play that match out.

Hopefully this sheds some light on the topic of champion picks. One champion may be stronger than another at certain points of the game, but game knowledge and skill is what will allow you to beat that flavor of the month or top tier champion.

but you can't deny that everyone is a "god"and is very toxic when you are playing a bad champion versus lee sin

rth21 votes

On na.op.gg you can check winrate statistics for champions. You can check this with filters for solo queue, ranked teams, normals, aram, etc...

Lee Sin is one of the most played champions at least this last month. He also has one of the lowest winrates in solo queue. I did not check any other formats.

I am not here to argue about if Lee Sin's mobility needs to be nerfed, if his ratio's are too good, or any other side people like to complain about. Lee Sin cannot be "The God 1v5 solo queue king!" and have one of the lowest winrates. There are ways to beat Lee Sin; I have beat Lee Sin as a laner and as a jungler, I have also been beaten as Lee Sin.

So here are some thoughts about Lee Sin and fighting him.

  1. Lee Sin is vastly considered a ganking / invading jungler. This means he tries to secure an advantage in game by ganking your laners and getting himself or his laners fed, or he like to go into your jungle, steal your camps, and try to find and kill the jungler on your team.

a) If you are a jungler against Lee Sin, get an early ward (plus trinket ward). What you want to do is to set up a ward or two around the mid and top entrances/exits from Lee's jungle. This way, your team can be aware of Lee Sin's movements (bot lane should have their entrance warded and be aware if Lee shows there). If Lee Sin is coming to invade your jungle, you can gank him at a jungle camp or even gank him with a fellow teammate and secure a kill/advantage for your team. If Lee Sin is coming to gank, the vision will allow your laners to know about where he is and you can set up a counter gank. If Lee goes all in to gank, your lane can turn and kill him or his laner.

b) If you are a laner you just need to treat Lee like most junglers and keep up some decent vision around your lane. Try not to get tunnel vision on your lane opponent and realize that if Lee Sin has not be seen in a while, there is a chance he may be around to gank you if you are pushed up constantly or if your lane opponent is acting unusually bold. If you are already having trouble in lane (barely keeping even or are behind) and Lee Sin camps you, this is just good jungling sense. In the jungle you go where you can gain an advantage, an opponent who is losing can net you an advantage. If you fail to see the gank coming, therefore don't react, that is your fault. If you don't keep up vision that is your fault. If your jungler is never there to counter gank, DO NOT count on him to show up. Back up so you don't die. If you die and yell at your jungler because he wasn't there, well you should have left. You had no back-up!

  1. Lee Sin does not have an incredible late game but is generally considered viable due to his insec ways.

a) Many champions can Insec. Azir can jump to soldiers, flash, ult multiple people into your team (and they can't jump back over those soldiers!). Alistair can run the loop-de-loop on you and headbutt pulverize, pulverize headbutt, flash pulverize headbutt. Oh and ult and be near indestructible for a few seconds. Janna can split up a team with her ultimate if she wants. Displacement is not a new thing.

b) Lee Sin has to position to insec somebody. If you are not positioning around his engage, then that is also your fault. For Lee Sin to insec optimally (besides just walking behind your team, Q, R, Q) he needs to engage with his Q, W or Flash, Kick you, then W or Flash away. If he does not hit his intended target with his Q, he has to Q, then use both his W and his Flash to get to his target, then kick them. This puts him at extreme risk. The team should be able to respond to a incoming Lee who has to W and Flash. If there is no CC on the team to disrupt him, that is a composition problem. The last option is the hardest for Lee, and should also be the most common. I main ADC. If I get hit by a Lee Sin Q while in a group, that is my bad. If I get insec'ed then I messed up. If somebody else gets hit with the Q and I don't position so I cannot be insec'ed, then that is my bad. If I am a tank / blocker and I let Lee Sin have a clear line from himself to my carries, then that is also my bad. Positioning can straight up stop a Lee Sin Insec. And if you played appropriately with vision early (against an early game jungler) than he should not be snowballed to where he can walk into your team and live. Remember early game snowball champ that gets 13 (lots of) kills early will be a nightmare mid game. That is your teams fault for not keeping vision up.

These are just two of the most common spots I see people complain about Lee. His utility ult late game and his ganking / invading early. These are both very counterable by any champion, but they are counterable using game knowledge not individual champion skill. This is why he can be a terror, especially at lower elo's where vision and positioning may not be a strongly reinforced skill with many players.

Hopefully this will help you in further games against any of those Lee Sin's (he does an incredibly high pick rate, so learning basic things to counter him helps).

OhOkYeah3 votes

Hopefully by next december there will be some changes. I feel like since lee sin is so mobile, and the other junglers aren't as viable as the top 2-3 meta picks, we can expect to see a huge change.

Patch 6.1: lee sin's mobility is a problem for all players, so wards have been removed from the game

Yash Gautam1 votes

What about galio?

Romans VI XXIII2 votes

they will not do anything to touch there "LCSBIGPLAY" champ lee sin. So stop asking for Lee Sin nerfs cause it wont happen.

Zyras Banana1 votes

Meta doesnt matter as long as your good with the champ, ive carried countless games as renekton in the current meta.

LegitBacon661 votes

Why you have to be mad? Its only game

UdoIkOSc4u2 votes

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i'm not mad

insaiyanbacca1 votes

ive played skarner jungle and destroyed a j4. ive also beaten quite a few ranged tops with things like tryndamere and darius. and malzahar is an immobile mid that if you towerdive him you die. only thing i agree with here is the fact that kalista is so stupid to play against

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