Lee Sin is getting overbuffed again on pbe...

option paralysis·Oct 4, 2017·18 votes·1,882 views

I know it's because of the new runes system, but everybody is getting +5 dmg, but lee gets a 20 dmg on his ult for no reason too.

Lee Sin Sonic Wave (Q1) damage increased from 50/80/110/140/170 to 55/85/115/145/175 Tempest (E1) damage increased from 60/95/130/165/200 to 65/100/135/170/205 Dragon's Rage (R) damage increased from 150/300/450 to 170/320/470

Just for comparison with Wukong, who hasn't been changed since fucking season 4, look what he gets. And how many times did you see him in the jungle thjs year. Fuckin' joke with the favoritism.

Wukong Nimbus Strike (E) damage increased from 60/105/150/150/195/240 to 65/110/155/200/245

26 Comments

FireDrizzleOct 4, 20176 votes

How the fuck can I ban lee win and Kogmaw?

ExcalibaitOct 4, 20178 votes

'> pick Support as your role '> hover one of them '> your team is 100% going to ban it so you don't troll '> ban the other yourself '> success

FireDrizzleOct 4, 20171 votes

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'> pick Support as your role '> hover one of them '> your team is 100% going to ban it so you don't troll '> ban the other yourself '> success

Good idea, ty.

BALDG1VEN BOOMEROct 4, 20171 votes

Fuck duplicated ban system

Best princess EUOct 4, 20174 votes

No reasons

Xd its not like his ult has 200% ad ratio which is a different ratio from wukong

Board at its finest

option paralysisOct 4, 20177 votes

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No reasons

Xd its not like his ult has 200% ad ratio which is a different ratio from wukong

Board at its finest

yes thats right, wukong can get up to 440% ad ratio. board at its finest indeed.

SlythionOct 4, 20171 votes

I legitimately don't know how wukong can apparently change his ad ratio's...can you explain that to me?

Auz the RipperOct 4, 20174 votes

It's 440% AD worth of damage only if they stand in the AoE for the entire duration. The ideal actual ratio per target is still 440% but the effective ratio per target is usually less

SlythionOct 4, 20171 votes

Ahhh I understand what you meant now

GrievousFetusOct 4, 20174 votes

The base damage increases are based on how much bonus AD the skill scales with, since it means that the skill loses more damage with the removal of AD reds and quints.

PennsOct 4, 20174 votes

Lee has only bonus ad scalings tho

WyrmbladeOct 4, 20173 votes

Lee Sin was functionally deleted from the game once five bans came out. I'd rather be 3 shotted by Twitch because at least he's not screaming YAKKKKUUUUN every single auto attack.

InfernapeOct 4, 20171 votes

KIKUHHHHHHHHHH

DunkinNoobsOct 4, 20176 votes

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Lee Sin was functionally deleted from the game once five bans came out.

I literally cannot remember the last time I saw a Lee ban.

WyrmbladeOct 5, 20171 votes

It was early in the morning and I forgot to write the words "for me" in my post. I kinda thought it was implied. I don't know how much other people ban him because I rarely ban anything else.

DurzakaOct 4, 20171 votes

lol, what?

Lee is banned maybe 1 in 10 games that ive played.

Twitch is banned more than lee.

KloqdqOct 4, 20172 votes

Pretty sure a lot of champions are getting 10-20+ on their ultimate...?

DracosKasuOct 4, 20172 votes

The LCS fav champ cannot be stop better nerf Irelia.

Danny DeVitoOct 4, 20172 votes

Every AD melee champ is getting buffs stop taking shit out of context for upvotes

Shaco DankoOct 4, 20171 votes

What do you know? Another lee sin buff. and Shaco is still the same. They keep buff this broken shit champion while shaco is getting a shitty ult rework and shitty stat update. What a surprise......

warpenguin555Oct 4, 20171 votes

He's not the only one getting 20 damage, I believe Jax or Pantheon got plus 20 damage on 1 ability too

InfernapeOct 4, 20171 votes

All champions that have bonus AD scaling are getting buffs on their bonus AD scaling abilities.

Darkdemon653Oct 4, 20171 votes

I'm not sure I'd call that being overbuffed.

As for Wukong, it's because he has a bad kit. While not justified, Riot intentionally very often keeps champions with bad kits weak.

Solidair3Oct 4, 20171 votes

All of those abilities scale with bonus AD, and thus he is getting small bumps thanks to adjustments in base stats across champs for the rune update. Abilities that scale with total AD are not getting the same treatment because they will not be as effected by the update.

TheGoomyGamerOct 4, 20171 votes

Its because lee's ult has a 200% Bonus AD ratio and is losing out a lot more form the removal of AD runes. Wukong's E, on the other hand, only has an 80% bonus ad ratio, so it makes sense for Lee Sin's ult to gain more damage, as it is affected more by the loss.

Entheos GeonOct 4, 20171 votes

You're leaving out all the context of the recent rune changes. Have you seen Wukong on the PBE? The new domination tree really synergizes with his kit. Get electrocute, sudden impact and duskblade on him and he deletes squishies with little effort.