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The QQ coming from tank mains has gotten out of control and it needs to stop.

HateDaddy··76 votes·4,422 views

For starters, tanks are tanking just fine. Flat pen no crit ADCs are not murdering tanks. The only way an ADC will melt a tank is with 3 multiplicative scaling stats: AS/Crir/percentage armor pen and they need ALL OF THE ABOVE to kill tanks. They spent the first 3 items of their builds actually beg unable to kill tanks. Until they pick up LW > LD and AT LEAST some attack speed, they will tickle tanks.

Here's what's actually happening:

Tank mains or going way too ham, jumping into the enemy teams going on their backlines and between being kited/cc'd; they die in 3-4 seconds when being focused by AN ENTIRE TEAM. They are mad that their full tank no damage build isn't murdering squishies anymore and as a result, they also think they should be able to be 5 man focused and live forever. No.

Tanks weren't not balanced during cinderhulk meta and tanks were not balanced during this season's tank meta. Tanks jobs are to zone control, damage soak and CC. If they pin down priority targets, that's well and good and that means they've done their job incredibly well. What is not their job is to Zerg back lines and KILL adcs and mages. When that's happening, tanks aren't balanced.

Stop QQing, tanks spend the first 30 minutes of the game being unkillable. There doesn't need to be an item that reduces damage taken from a percentage standpoints, offense should ultimately beat out defense in a game like this. A champion spends its entire build at the cost of maybe 1 defensive item to kill tanks. Instead of QQing that tanks can't do everything, play the role or find something else if you think a full tank building killing squishies whole ignoring everything thrown at it is balanced. It's not reasonable and nobody who isn't playing tanks thinks it's reasonable.

230 Comments

Cloud27322 votes

The problem is every time Riot tries to buff tanks, they also end up buffing bruisers, since bruisers can easily abuse tank items. I think we should increase base health, health per level, and defense/mr per level on the champs who are supposed to be tanks. That would fix so many issues.

HateDaddy9 votes

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The problem is every time Riot tries to buff tanks, they also end up buffing bruisers, since bruisers can easily abuse tank items. I think we should increase base health, health per level, and defense/mr per level on the champs who are supposed to be tanks. That would fix so many issues.

No it wouldn't lol

It would make tanks even more fucking broken.

Bruisers aren't good at abusing tank items anymore. One of the reasons for that is riot has nerfed armor values a ton on armor items but in exchange, they've given true tanks innate defensive steroids to maintain their durability no mater what. Whether this be in the form of shields, % resist increase or % damage reduction, true tanks do just fine with the current itemization.

Bruisers haven't been abusing tank items because it simply doesn't work. Without natural defensive steroids, they don't end up being very tanky. Instead, they build HP items like BC or Trinity and one of the Jarims fist items. Then they build a few tank items to increase their durability so they can last until he thick of things. This isn't "abusing" tank items. This is using them as intended.

Tanks don't need buffs at all, tanks are actually pretty balanced right now.

Cloud2739 votes

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No it wouldn't lol

It would make tanks even more fucking broken.

Bruisers aren't good at abusing tank items anymore. One of the reasons for that is riot has nerfed armor values a ton on armor items but in exchange, they've given true tanks innate defensive steroids to maintain their durability no mater what. Whether this be in the form of shields, % resist increase or % damage reduction, true tanks do just fine with the current itemization.

Bruisers haven't been abusing tank items because it simply doesn't work. Without natural defensive steroids, they don't end up being very tanky. Instead, they build HP items like BC or Trinity and one of the Jarims fist items. Then they build a few tank items to increase their durability so they can last until he thick of things. This isn't "abusing" tank items. This is using them as intended.

Tanks don't need buffs at all, tanks are actually pretty balanced right now.

They're not broken tho. Just look at champion.gg. Looking at the top 20 champs for win rates, I don't see a single tank there. Also, you guys have true damage, %health damage, %max health damage, %missing health damage, botrk, liandries, last whisper, etc. There's so many things that screw tanks over it's stupid. And what do we have? A bunch of garbage items nerfed to oblivion this season.

http://champion.gg/statistics/#?sortBy=general.winPercent&order=descend

PermabannedGaren11 votes

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They're not broken tho. Just look at champion.gg. Looking at the top 20 champs for win rates, I don't see a single tank there. Also, you guys have true damage, %health damage, %max health damage, %missing health damage, botrk, liandries, last whisper, etc. There's so many things that screw tanks over it's stupid. And what do we have? A bunch of garbage items nerfed to oblivion this season.

http://champion.gg/statistics/#?sortBy=general.winPercent&order=descend

Today I found out Amumu is not a tank.

Sona x Rubick20 votes

let's get back to season 1 shall we?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dF4hbKTp6Lw 7:30 , if you were attacked by a carry you would have died as a tank, BUT not in 3 seconds. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7jVg7m_VYQ 1:14 if you were attacked by a non-carry champ you would have taken ages to die. that's how it should work.

carries kills everyone but can be killed by burst, tanks can tank everything but they cannot tank the high damage of the carries. and that's why the carries should be protected.

right now it doesn't matter, you can be malphite with 300 armor, if Darius has the right build, he will still kill you in 5 seconds.

HateDaddy8 votes

[{quoted}](name=Sona x Rubick,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=FLhnlBMd,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2016-08-12T01:03:40.140+0000)

let's get back to season 1 shall we?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dF4hbKTp6Lw 7:30 , if you were attacked by a carry you would have died as a tank, BUT not in 3 seconds. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7jVg7m_VYQ 1:20 if you were attacked by a non-carry champ you would have taken ages to die. that's how it should work.

carries kills everyone but can be killed by burst, tanks can tank everything but they cannot tank the high damage of the carries. and that's why the carries should be protected.

right now it doesn't matter, you can be malphite with 300 armor, if Darius has the right build, he will still kill you in 5 seconds.

lmao

"Wtf a champion with a huge true damage nuke did damage to me wtf"

Like this logic is so fucking flawed and irrational. Go away.

Best princess EU10 votes

not really, you thought that darius was the only one? everyone does too much damage, this is beyond control. and riot isn't done yet, they are buffing brand and riven's damage, and in the future they will continue to do it this is already a big issue.

by the way, darius's ulti doesn't do 3000 or 4000 damage.

YCitizenSnipsY9 votes

http://www.champion.gg/champion/Darius

Darius has favorable match ups against nothing but tanks because none can go toe to toe with him. He can shred armor and has a true damage nuke. Not to mention he builds tanky himself so they do next to no damage back. I really don't understand how you can't figure out how he is beating tanks.

PermabannedGaren3 votes

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right now it doesn't matter, you can be malphite with 300 armor, if Darius has the right build, he will still kill you in 5 seconds.

Peel him so your carry can DPS him then. Darius is the best tank killer of the juggernauts. He has steroids in place to make him naturally pretty good at doing so.

Sona x Rubick1 votes

my bad then, i chose the wrong example, but then i realized that with the amount of armor pene steroid, %hp damage, or true damage, basically everyone became tank killers.

HateDaddy2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Sona x Rubick,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=FLhnlBMd,comment-id=000300010000,timestamp=2016-08-12T01:44:48.445+0000)

my bad then, i chose the wrong example, but then i realized that with the amount of armor pene steroid, %hp damage, or true damage, basically everyone became tank killers.

What armor pen steroid?

PermabannedGaren2 votes

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What armor pen steroid?

Well, Darius has one on his E's passive. 25% total armour penetration.

Sona x Rubick3 votes

Darius JarvanIV Gangplank Yasuo Kayle KogMaw Trundle Vi Corki (not the full list just the one i can think about)

some of them are even debuffs, which profits to the entire team.

HateDaddy4 votes

[{quoted}](name=Sona x Rubick,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=FLhnlBMd,comment-id=00030001000000000001,timestamp=2016-08-12T01:53:40.451+0000)

Darius JarvanIV Gangplank Yasuo Kayle KogMaw Trundle Vi Corki

some of them are even debuffs, which profits to the entire team.

Half of that list sucks. And trundles identity is to be the "anti tank" bruiser. Gangplanks barrels are definitely broken. And yasuo only gains the bonus armor pen, nobody else does.

I should also point out many of these champions have existed with this being their niches FOREVER. They didn't suddenly just gain this.

Sona x Rubick1 votes

trundle's identity is an anti tank bruiser, yet before gunblade was a thing , jax was an anti-tank with bork, and Fiora has become an anti-tank bruiser right now.

and half of that list sucks, they can still make tank's life a hell like vi's W or j4's Q, wukong's 30% armor pene on Q.

keep in mind that it's only armor pene, i'm not talking about true damage (hello Fiora Irelia ) or %hp damage, hell look at kled.

HateDaddy5 votes

[{quoted}](name=Sona x Rubick,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=FLhnlBMd,comment-id=0003000100000000000100000000,timestamp=2016-08-12T02:01:06.991+0000)

trundle's identity is an anti tank bruiser, yet before gunblade was a thing , jax was an anti-tank with bork, and Fiora has become an anti-tank bruiser right now.

Jax is supposed to be a carry. He will outduel tanks but his job is never to focus them down or shred them. Just because they outduel tanks doesn't mean tanks suck.

and half of that list sucks, they can still make tank's life a hell like vi's W or j4's Q, wukong's 30% armor pene on Q.

Yes but they will NEVER be focus of tanks or using their armor shred on them. They dive/initiate and go on backlines. Their armor pen is so help them be good duelists so they can be less one dimensional.

keep in mind that it's only armor pene, i'm not talking about true damage (hello Fiora Irelia ) or %hp damage, hell look at kled.

Irelia sucks at killing tanks. Her true damage is flat and doesn't scale. Fiora's true damage is silly but can be outplayed and while I do agree that they shouldn't have given her %max hp true damage, at the end of the day as long as bruiser fiora is dead, glass or even semi glass fiora still does fairly quickly and has to use her kit very well to be successful.

Sona x Rubick1 votes

you're right on irelia, it was dumb from me.

Now look, they won't focus tanks obviously, but they can still bring them down quicker than expected if necessary, and that's what i was trying to say since the begining. and it's not only the armor pene steroid people/true damage/%hp damage champions, but even champions like Viktor Riven Rengar Renekton can bring down a tank over 5 or 6 seconds simply because they do too much damage, which should not be the case.

PermabannedGaren4 votes

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you're right on irelia, it was dumb from me.

Now look, they won't focus tanks obviously, but they can still bring them down quicker than expected if necessary, and that's what i was trying to say since the begining. and it's not only the armor pene steroid people/true damage/%hp damage champions, but even champions like Viktor Riven Rengar Renekton can bring down a tank over 5 or 6 seconds simply because they do too much damage, which should not be the case.

Renekton is awful against tanks, lol.

HateDaddy6 votes

[{quoted}](name=Sona x Rubick,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=FLhnlBMd,comment-id=000300010000000000010000000000000000,timestamp=2016-08-12T02:18:44.319+0000)

you're right on irelia, it was dumb from me.

Now look, they won't focus tanks obviously, but they can still bring them down quicker than expected if necessary, and that's what i was trying to say since the begining. and it's not only the armor pene steroid people/true damage/%hp damage champions, but even champions like Viktor Riven Rengar Renekton can bring down a tank over 5 or 6 seconds simply because they do too much damage, which should not be the case.

Renekton wouldn't

Viktor at full build would but it'd require a void staff

Riven and Rengar dedicate their entire builds to high AD and would need last whisper to kill tanks. But they'd never focus a tank because that's not their jobs.

Are you seeing a pattern here? If these melee ranged squishy champions are in postition to focus tanks, they're probably dying. And in order to kill tanks, they need to build accordingly to do so. that's not a problem, that's how it should be.

Sona x Rubick1 votes

renekton has black cleaver, and his E gives him armor pene.

i don't see a pattern, because i told you that they won't focus tanks, but if it happens that they were focusing tanks, they're going to kill them quickly. and by the way, they all get last whisper in late game, because the only class that won't build armor in late game is adc, and they still have around 80 base armor at lvl 18, with runes.

HateDaddy4 votes

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renekton has black cleaver, and his E gives him armor pene.

i don't see a pattern, because i told you that they won't focus tanks, but if it happens that they were focusing tanks, they're going to kill them quickly. and by the way, they all get last whisper in late game, because the only class that won't build armor in late game is adc, and they still have around 80 base armor at lvl 18, with runes.

Renekton with just a black clever isn't going to kill tanks that quickly, period. Yes he can offer the utility of shredding armor but he won't kill them. He also needs to E them with 50% fury to be granted the armor pen on E, and he wouldn't because he'd use his fury on Q or Ws.

Unless these champions specifically build to kill tanks, they aren't going to kill them quickly. Honestly, you're just making shit up at this point because "he has armor pen!" That doesn't mean anything.

Sure, if renekton went full AD with last whisper he could kill a tank, but it requires him to do so.

That's the things tank mains refuse to accept. In order to kill tanks, you need to dedicate your entire inventory to it to do it. Are there some champions that can do it on their own? Sure but they are designed to do exactly that.

OneMustFall14 votes

While Tanks shouldn't be able to melt squishys, Tanks getting deleted isn't healthy either. I see both sides of the coin and there should be balance.

HateDaddy16 votes

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While Tanks shouldn't be able to melt squishys, Tanks getting deleted isn't healthy either. I see both sides of the coin and there should be balance.

Tanks aren't "getting deleted."

I still play Maokai and Malphite and do incredibly well on them. And not until very late game does it get to a point where an ADC can kill me by itself, as it should be. Tanks need to be killable at some point and simply put, they aren't "being deleted." That's never really been the case ever really. Tanks have been weak before but it's never been because they die too fast.

OneMustFall10 votes

That's simply not true. I don't know how many games I've seen people going full tank and they just got destroyed. Hell as an ADC I know I'm deleting them and I'm like "This doesn't make sense killing someone with 4k HP this fast".

The fact is tank items got enough nerfs and ADCs got even more pen to deal with armor that tanks are able to be melted now.

HateDaddy8 votes

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That's simply not true. I don't know how many games I've seen people going full tank and they just got destroyed. Hell as an ADC I know I'm deleting them and I'm like "This doesn't make sense killing someone with 4k HP this fast".

Considering if they have 4K+ HP, the reality is they probably haven't built many resists. Tanks aren't dying any slower or faster than they have before, that's just a simple fact. If you're building 3-4 armor items, it's going to take awhile for an ADC not named kog or vayne to kill you.

The fact is tank items got enough nerfs and ADCs got even more pen to deal with armor that tanks are able to be melted now.

Tank items haven't really been nerfed in a long time and ADC items didn't get flat pen, they got a slight buff on LW with LD to killing tanks. Other than that, for the one billionth time

FLAT

PEN

IS

NOT

GOOD

VS

ARMOR

TANKS

TheSingularity2 votes

Deadmans frozenheart randuins warmogs cinderhulk thornmail and elixir of iron on sejuani (who gets even more armour from passive) Over 6K hp and some stupid sum of armour

Jhin needed an aa rotation, a w, q and 2 ults. He out healed thornmail and didn't drop below half hp. Took about 7 seconds Twas dusk ghostblade bloodthirster boots and a lord dominiks. 1 LESS ITEM, NO ELIXIR

I would've been better off going full ap and popping him.

What's the point in building purely to counter their adc, when it makes almost no difference. It works against jinx, tris. My god even vayne takes longer to kill me than that, and she's an anti tank.

What counters that? Liandries and dot mages

HateDaddy7 votes

{quoted}

Deadmans frozenheart randuins warmogs cinderhulk thornmail and elixir of iron on sejuani (who gets even more armour from passive) Over 6K hp and some stupid sum of armour

Jhin needed an aa rotation, a w, q and 2 ults. He out healed thornmail and didn't drop below half hp. Took about 7 seconds Twas dusk ghostblade bloodthirster boots and a lord dominiks. 1 LESS ITEM, NO ELIXIR

I would've been better off going full ap and popping him.

What's the point in building purely to counter their adc, when it makes almost no difference. It works against jinx, tris. My god even vayne takes longer to kill me than that, and she's an anti tank.

What counters that? Liandries and dot mages

It took a full build jhin 7 seconds to kill you, it made a hell of a difference. Please be real.

TheSingularity1 votes

My apologies. Let's subtract about 2.5 seconds of wind up animations for his q w and r. It took him about 4.5 seconds to kill me. I can tank a jinx or a trist all day long with that build. And as I said, it takes vayne waaaay longer to kill me, and with %hp true dmg

Ps: you should try and make it less obvious that ur acc hopping to upvote urself.

HateDaddy8 votes

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My apologies. Let's subtract about 2.5 seconds of wind up animations for his q w and r. It took him about 4.5 seconds to kill me. I can tank a jinx or a trist all day long with that build. And as I said, it takes vayne waaaay longer to kill me, and with %h true dmg

It was his ult that did most of that damage

Jhins op right now, what's your point

TheSingularity1 votes

Not really, he only needed the first 2 shots to kill me point blank. And I doubt the first 2 ult shots deal more dmg than 4 aa, q and w with dft

Edit: I will acknowledge that some tanks are doing fine as they been chilling while the competition has been nerfed (zac, nunu and cinderhulk sion have been holding up pretty well)

HateDaddy5 votes

{quoted}

Not really, he only needed the first 2 shots to kill me point blank. And I doubt the first 2 ult shots deal more dmg than 4 aa, q and w with dft

They're executes so if you're low enough, they probably would

jaymc11307 votes

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It was his ult that did most of that damage

Jhins op right now, what's your point

My question is... in the 2.5 seconds of wind up time... why was he just standing still letting jhin get in his butthole instead of reacting to the situation appropriately?

HateDaddy6 votes

{quoted}

My question is... in the 2.5 seconds of wind up time... why was he just standing still letting jhin get in his butthole instead of reacting to the situation appropriately?

shrugs

TheSingularity1 votes

Getting in his face so he's shooting me and not my carries?

HateDaddy5 votes

{quoted}

Getting in his face so he's shooting me and not my carries?

That's playing tanks incorrectly

It's a balancing act of zoning them, not just standing near them and allowing them to shoot you freely. Nothing will live long under those circumstances.

Sir Fuzzi4 votes

And it took him 7 seconds to realize the fight was not in his favour. With 30% CDR, Sej can charge pretty frequently with Q; he chose to stay in, without damage, and try to win against someone building full damage. To say nothing of bringing grievous wounds to the fight, having an ally, a plan-- anything.

Tanks don't deal damage unless they build it. If they don't deal it, how're they going to fight anyone?

I mean, 6k hp guarantees Jhin is also benefitting from that Dom's. Besides that, most of that armor is bonus; since Pen is %-based, higher numbers will give Sej the diminishing returns-- the higher armor counts (50+100+60+100+20[passive]=330, * .45, 148 of Sejuani's armor off items is ignored) won't mean as much in the face of penetration.

The bonus pen was an answer to 'building into' tank. You shouldn't just be able to faceroll up a build, and then outtank everything. If you were losing-- seven seconds of fighting in League should be enough to gauge where the fight is headed unless they pull a turnabout of some sort (I dunno, flash behind you and shank?) and so the Sejuani was punished for poor play. To say nothing of that Jhin probably got to kite her between trap + passive (it gives him movespeed on crit, remember?), and all of a sudden that big, meaty Sejuani just seems like a giant trap.

Jhin also gets a bunch of scaling to missing HP. So god knows the longer the fight went on, the harder he hit... and Jhin hits really, really hard. That's sort of the thing he does, what with having three stats contribute to his AD.

I was gonna side against OP but he's got a point, picking terrible fights and justifying it is a bad idea. Now, if you'd swapped a RoA, Zhonya's, Iceborn in there somewhere, maybe... or didn't try to solo ADCs with pen as a tank...

TheSingularity1 votes

You have dominant points to which there is no logical counter argument. But eh, was just doin mah job. 6K hp isn't very useful if I'm cowering behind my carries.

VivaLaKitten2 votes

"They think they should be able to 5 man focus and live forever" think? Darius Illaoi

HateDaddy7 votes

{quoted}

"They think they should be able to 5 man focus and live forever" think? Darius Illaoi

You can kite Darius and disengage from Illaoi so they don't get heals

There's actual gameplay to their durability, not just a wall of stats

jaymc11307 votes

{quoted}

You can kite Darius and disengage from Illaoi so they don't get heals

There's actual gameplay to their durability, not just a wall of stats

Lets be fair in regards to ill though, she's pretty broken atm.

HateDaddy10 votes

{quoted}

Lets be fair in regards to ill though, she's pretty broken atm.

It's her lane phase that's mainly the problem tbh

jaymc11303 votes

{quoted}

It's her lane phase that's mainly the problem tbh

It's just the lane phase really, same issue Fiora had about a year ago. Its ridiculously oppressive.

Sad Tyrant1 votes

you can't kite Darius if you are a melee character, you don't get a choice at all. In lane you get the choice of dying or not getting farm. unless you have the Cancer of MasterYiYasuo or someone with massive slows (Blue Ezreal Anivia ) or ridiculus kiting potential of Kalista Ashe you are gonna have a bad time, this is only relieved if the Darius' team is shit

jaymc11302 votes

[{quoted}](name=Sad Tyrant,realm=OCE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=FLhnlBMd,comment-id=001200000001,timestamp=2016-08-12T07:29:59.769+0000)

you can't kite Darius if you are a melee character,

Evelynn item 3116 : What? You joking mate?

Sad Tyrant1 votes

Did you read the rest mate?

jaymc11301 votes

[{quoted}](name=Sad Tyrant,realm=OCE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=FLhnlBMd,comment-id=00120000000100000000,timestamp=2016-08-12T17:59:57.872+0000)

Did you read the rest mate?

Um... I don't know what this response is in reference to, this is why its often best to use quote rather than reply. So, um... No?

I can't honestly say since I dunno what I was reading before or anything.

Sad Tyrant1 votes

Sigh Doesn't matter

jaymc11301 votes

[{quoted}](name=Sad Tyrant,realm=OCE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=FLhnlBMd,comment-id=0012000000010000000000000000,timestamp=2016-08-12T18:32:12.987+0000)

Sigh Doesn't matter

I'd be happy to oblige you but I'm not sure what was being discussed, whether it was in this thread, or even in this subsection! Link me and I'll do my due diligence on the topic.

Sad Tyrant1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Sad Tyrant,realm=OCE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=FLhnlBMd,comment-id=001200000001,timestamp=2016-08-12T07:29:59.769+0000)

you can't kite Darius if you are a melee character, you don't get a choice at all. In lane you get the choice of dying or not getting farm. unless you have the Cancer of MasterYiYasuo or someone with massive slows (Blue Ezreal Anivia ) or ridiculus kiting potential of Kalista Ashe you are gonna have a bad time, this is only relieved if the Darius' team is shit.

this is in reference to this post : http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/FLhnlBMd-the-qq-coming-from-tank-mains-has-gotten-out-of-control-and-it-needs-to-stop

[{quoted}](name=Sad Tyrant,realm=OCE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=FLhnlBMd,comment-id=00120000000100000000,timestamp=2016-08-12T17:59:57.872+0000)

Did you read the rest mate?

this Quote is in reference to your statement:

{quoted}

Evelynn item 3116 : What? You joking mate?

however the direct response is this part:

someone with massive slows (Blue Ezreal Anivia )

jaymc11302 votes

[{quoted}](name=Sad Tyrant,realm=OCE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=FLhnlBMd,comment-id=001200000001000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-08-12T19:50:58.586+0000)

this is in reference to this post : http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/FLhnlBMd-the-qq-coming-from-tank-mains-has-gotten-out-of-control-and-it-needs-to-stop

this Quote is in reference to your statement:

however the direct response is this part:

someone with massive slows (Blue Ezreal Anivia )

Ah, well I was only responding to the quip about darius. He's anti melee. But there is indeed one melee who CAN kite him. That being eve. Thats all I meant. The response with eve was mostly just a joke, its obvious melee champs have a tough time with darius, hes desgined to make life hard for them.

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I don't understand people on this board
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