Champions like vlad show why mages can't have nice things without nerfs.

Succubús GF··2 votes·1,830 views

Vlad is quite literally the ezreal of mages, in fact battlemages as a class are kinda oriented as toxic gameplay, tank building burst mages are not healthy for the game and it's so absurd i have to say that.

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Warlord Rhinark1 votes

I think I remember Ezreal (The designer) saying that Vladimir is actually the hardest champion for Riot to balance.

Killer of Night91 votes

If I remember correctly vladimir was the reason of why spell vamp was quite weak (remember the spell vamp tome? Only him and mordekaiser build that and mordekaiser swap to gunblade after the ratio change.

Malix Farwin1 votes

I like how you said vlad is why mages cannot have nice things by comparing him to a non mage. Don't even see the irony of it.

Its All Skillzz2 votes

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I like how you said vlad is why mages cannot have nice things by comparing him to a non mage. Don't even see the irony of it.

actually ezreal can be played as a mage/assassin, he has highest burst in the game next to syndra/veigar. his combo puts pretty much any assassin to shame in terms of deletion power on a squishy. but its all skill shots, and can even be eaten by minions, but he ofc faces the problems most normal assassins/mages dont have, such as wave clear and or CC. he only brings shit ton of aoe damage and able to do more in team fights besides pick one guy. he was only comparing vlad to ezreal as like ezreal vlad breaks items that are ment to be good for mages, more ap = more tank and more hp = more damage, if they add new health items or high ap items with cool effets, then vlad will abuse them. just like if they add more on hit items or new sheen items then ezreal will abuse them.

Malix Farwin1 votes

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actually ezreal can be played as a mage/assassin, he has highest burst in the game next to syndra/veigar. his combo puts pretty much any assassin to shame in terms of deletion power on a squishy. but its all skill shots, and can even be eaten by minions, but he ofc faces the problems most normal assassins/mages dont have, such as wave clear and or CC. he only brings shit ton of aoe damage and able to do more in team fights besides pick one guy. he was only comparing vlad to ezreal as like ezreal vlad breaks items that are ment to be good for mages, more ap = more tank and more hp = more damage, if they add new health items or high ap items with cool effets, then vlad will abuse them. just like if they add more on hit items or new sheen items then ezreal will abuse them.

https://lolalytics.com/ranked/worldwide/platinum/plus/champion/Ezreal/1trick/

Interesting, not a single instance does it should him building anything mage. you equate his burst dmg to mage when its not. He doesnt build mage. I mean by that logic Jhin can burst like a mage so i guess he can be played mage/assassin.

Its All Skillzz1 votes

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https://lolalytics.com/ranked/worldwide/platinum/plus/champion/Ezreal/1trick/

Interesting, not a single instance does it should him building anything mage. you equate his burst dmg to mage when its not. He doesnt build mage. I mean by that logic Jhin can burst like a mage so i guess he can be played mage/assassin.

i guess im the only one, but i peek around diamond 4 playing only gunblade ap ezreal, but my accounts have been banned so they dont got many ezreal games on my newer ones.

OtterlyLost1 votes

ArchAngel Staff is suddenly not a mage item? Zhonya's is suddenly not a mage item? Hextech Gunblade is not a mage item???

You know, what I actually see is a champion who abuses multiple classes of champion's items.

Tank/Bruiser: Triforce, Frozen Gauntlet ADC: BT, LW, BoRK Assassin: Maw Mage: ArchAngel Staff, Zhonya's, Hextech Gunblade

Seriously, why is it that any other ADC can dip a toe into other champion's build items and then the item is gutted and taken away but Ezreal can have this huge a varied build path and Riot is fine with it? :/

Its All Skillzz1 votes

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ArchAngel Staff is suddenly not a mage item? Zhonya's is suddenly not a mage item? Hextech Gunblade is not a mage item???

You know, what I actually see is a champion who abuses multiple classes of champion's items.

Tank/Bruiser: Triforce, Frozen Gauntlet ADC: BT, LW, BoRK Assassin: Maw Mage: ArchAngel Staff, Zhonya's, Hextech Gunblade

Seriously, why is it that any other ADC can dip a toe into other champion's build items and then the item is gutted and taken away but Ezreal can have this huge a varied build path and Riot is fine with it? :/

champions with hybrid scaling can do that, akali can build gunblade duskblade hydra triforce pretty much anything she wants, same with kat can build ad items and do well so can kayle, kai'sa is basically the same as ezreal, any champion with dual scaling on every ability or atleast most their kit can do this, its one of the reasons i love ezreal. i can play him mid or adc i can build ap or ad, but i always like the AP path more. if a ability has a very high scaling then building ap is not wasted, like most tanks with high ap scaling can be built full ap, but their kits are normally ment for surviving and tanking not 1 shotting, besides AP malphite/moakai.

Succubús GF1 votes

Ezreal is a record holder for breaking items for others, that was my comparison; you sound dumb.

TakaDama1 votes

I am surprised they haven't given Vlad and Ryze the Singed treatment and scrap their current passives ... or at least a Pyke like fix and prevent some bonus stat from being used normally in addition to compensation.

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