from going into the jungle? just take some tanky runes, get a good first leash, get devourer and guinsoo's and then laugh as you op proc your w for tons of damage on anyone who tries to get close to you
first clear might be hell, im not sure. but with sated later in the game, kog'maw would be so oppressive and overbearing i feel like it's totally worth the risk
Curling Veigar3 votescounter jungling
ScarnMichaelScar1 votes[{quoted}](name=Sadistic Veigar,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EyduBQhy,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2016-03-07T05:36:01.238+0000)
counter jungling
counter jungling stops all junglers from being good in the jungler.
that's like saying the only thing stopping kat from being faceroll free wins is cc. cc stops everyone in their tracks for the most part. not a viable argument.
Zero Skill Tank3 votesCounterjungling is much more effective versus junglers with weak dueling early, and no escapes. You won't counterjungle Xin as easily because he will tear you some new holes if you try to. Kog would require tons of protection from his teammates. A Lee Sin or Shyv would easily put him far behind. Many champions were hold out of jungle solely because of them being prone to counterjunglers.
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AlwaysByMySide1 votescounter jungling stops all junglers from being good in the jungler.
that's like saying the only thing stopping kat from being faceroll free wins is cc. cc stops everyone in their tracks for the most part. not a viable argument.
It is a lot easier to counter jungle Kog'maw than it is to counter jungle, say, Udyr.
ScarnMichaelScar1 votes[{quoted}](name=Memeglaive Garen,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EyduBQhy,comment-id=000100000001,timestamp=2016-03-07T06:03:34.558+0000)
It is a lot easier to counter jungle Kog'maw than it is to counter jungle, say, Udyr.
wait, you're saying udyr
one of the three patron gods of counter jungling(
are the others) is harder to counterjungle than 
?
well duh.
lets take a jungler who isn't as of right now an overly mobile piece of lcs sick play garbage 
are all pretty damn easy to counterjungle too
yet somehow they see mild success in jungle
SLICE AMERICANS1 votesAll of the above mentioned have either some level of durability or a dash(some even have both) which would allow them to survive a duel long enough for their team to come in for the assist and stomp the counter jungler. Even if the you had a Yi or Shy just coming in to clear your camps its fine for them because they aren't AS heavily reliant on items as an ADC like Kogmaw who NEEDS the big ticket items first to clear camps effectively.
Both Graves and Kindred have a dash and are mildly tanky so they can get away with the whole ADC jungle thing. What's keeping Kog'maw out is the fact that he's a hyper carry, SUPER weak early game, SUPER strong late. He needs a support to babysit him until then.
I have seen some Kog's in the jungle though, I usually just eat them.
AlwaysByMySide2 voteswait, you're saying udyr one of the three patron gods of counter jungling(
well duh.
lets take a jungler who isn't as of right now an overly mobile piece of lcs sick play garbage
yet somehow they see mild success in jungle
Okay, it is harder to counter jungle Diana, Sion, Tryndamere, Skarner, and Sejuani than it is to counter jungle Kog'maw.
Furthermore, a Kog'maw that is put behind is more useless than all of those champions.
All of those champions also have better ganks and mobility.
BladeSteel1 votesNothing, people have been playing kog in the jungle since his changed before the buffs...
xl Kirito lx1 votesIt's fun, but still has the weaknesses of current Kog'maw. Being banned. I mean getting all-in, and not having his W. Beyond that, you're basically playing a feral jungler, that doesn't have the ability to gank. Warwick / Yi / Shyvana have some potential through speed buffs.
His first clear is actually respectable. Especially if you start red side, where you get bot lane leash + krug buff. I think I've gotten both buffs with Kog, and a camp with machette + refillable. Krug buff is amazing on jungle Kog, and one of the jungle items gives a nice OHE for Koggles.
BadmoonBC1 votesI've seen it a few times If we don't end the game before he gets sated he auto wins
Nanuk Pihoqahiak1 votesHe's very easy to counter jungle relative to other junglers. Wanna know what makes him awesome in the jungle, especially on his first clear? You smite Krugs for the stack-stun thing and you can stunlock the big minions in every camp without ever being touched by them if your attack-move mechanics are decent.