No Cleanse ability on a support

The Ecdysiast··3 votes·760 views

As it stands, summoner 1 doesn't work on allies. Gangplank can't throw oranges at allies. The only "support" with a cleanse-like ability is Morgana and she's not even supposed to be in bot lane.

There needs to be a support with a cleanse so you can actually counter Leona Thresh and Morgana 's ton of CC. I don't care if they put it on someone or if they make it a new champion, it's just completely necessary as long as they're going to keep the only cleanse or slow-breaking abilities on melee champs. Gangplank Alistar Garen Olaf MasterYi . Seriously, they just made Ashe's slow permanent. There's no reason no support should be able to break that and no ADC either.

Edit: I know about item 3222. I'm talking about CHAMPION ABILITIES.

If you think items replace the need for an ability, then you should argue that "no champ needs a shield, they already have item 3003 item 3190 , item 3401 etc. "Lissandra ,Fizz , Fiora shouldn't be untargetable, just buy item 3157." "Nothing should give site when you can buy item 2045 and get a item 3340 for free."

Items do not replace abilities. That said, Leona has two stuns and a slow at level 3. I'd like to see a player who has a full item 3222 at level 3.

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shalec2 votes

item 3222

RookPusher2 votes

Actually, that's kind of a nice idea. I'd personally like to see a lot of supports with currently terrible abilities should get an AoE cleanse. Or, if people are screaming OP at that, at least the next support should get a cleanse.

ShuffledPancake1 votes

The knew zeke's does that and mikael's doe sit too, though thats not what you mean.

The Ecdysiast1 votes

Yeah. Of course that's not what I fuckin' mean. If I wanted the thread to be about items, I would've started a thread about items.

canpan141 votes

If item 3222 only item 3222 there item 3222 was item 3222 an item 3222 item item 3222 that item 3222 did item 3222 that item 3222

The Ecdysiast3 votes

IS THAT A CHAMPION??

canpan141 votes

Tahm basically does what you want. Nomz the ally for long enough that whatever cc was on them will be gone. You need to calm down.

The Ecdysiast1 votes

This wasn't an outburst, I just figured this guy needed help seeing the words since he couldn't grasp the very clear concept that I was not talking about items. He posted the wrong kind of reply to the wrong thread.

BeatzBoyFTW1 votes

item 3222 Is this item really unpopular....? item 3222

ShuffledPancake1 votes

HE DOWNVOTED YOU XD

BeatzBoyFTW1 votes

He must be hiding his shame from not knowing a simple item at a level 30 account lol.

The Ecdysiast2 votes

No I know the item. I downvoted him because he's talking about an item on a post about champion abilities. If I wanted to have an item that everyone can buy, I would've said, "please make item 3222 a gold-income item for supports."

BeatzBoyFTW1 votes

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Edit: I know about item 3222. I'm talking about CHAMPION ABILITIES.

If you think items replace the need for an ability, then you should argue that "no champ needs a shield, they already have item 3003 item 3190 , item 3401 etc. "Lissandra ,Fizz , Fiora shouldn't be untargetable, just buy item 3157." "Nothing should give site when you can buy item 2045 and get a item 3340 for free."

Do you really think Zed/Fizz/Liss/Fiora have their ult at level 1? Having an item that negates abilities in a very early stage is plain lazy as fk. This eliminates a lot of "LCS plays" & the knowledge to time/position off certain abilities.

Items do not replace abilities. That said, Leona has two stuns and a slow at level 3. I'd like to see a player who has a full item 3222 at level 3.

Sometimes, a support does not have to "over-babysit" too much. ADC can take care of themselves too. If they get caught out, then it's their fault, even despite your best efforts in protecting him with your abilities with certain champs. There's so many factors to take in before you receive CC, such as positioning, timing, map awareness etc.

CC is a bigger factor at a mid-late game, where people are about 10x more careful than they are at mid-late game to prevent early snowballs, and having a champion to negate CC on his ADC after he gets it is a little bit toxic. Compared to Morgana's E, yours has little counterplay, since all you have to do is wait out their CC to be wasted by a certain champ's cleanse kit.

If you really want a champ that negates CC, play Morgana . She's the closest you can get.

The Ecdysiast2 votes

So you're trying to fuckin' argue that Gangplank is overpowered? Look out guys, we've got a genius over here.

BeatzBoyFTW1 votes

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So you're trying to fuckin' argue that Gangplank is overpowered? Look out guys, we've got a genius over here.

And look out, we have an angry/excited brainless illiterate OP over here who argues after reading 1/4 of the whole comment thinking he's a know-it-all after 2 seconds of reading.

Plain lazy as fk: As in having an ability that has no exciting moments & ruins the fun of the game.

Eliminates LCS plays & knowledge to time/position off certain abilities: Having to do the LCS plays & knowing the time/position off certain abilities is what makes the game fun. Doing all those will make players feel as if they made a brilliant juke, pro-awareness etc. But having an ability that removes "game impact CC" is typically boring. Not OP, but boring.

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