Maan, Riot hates bruisers, they are crap and unviable since forever
.
? But
are all doing stellar at the moment, and many others like
are strong, too.
.
... but I don't like those bruisers, I'm talking about my bruisers. You know, like <<insert outdated, 100% point-and-click fighter that most likely has been meta at most a few months ago anyway>>
Fuck them braindead <<adc/mages/tanks>>
Penns7 votesTanks all suck too except 
hehe
Simmoniana4 votesEven Nautilus is pushing above a 50% winrate now on toplane, and he basically got dumpstered by Riot.
The problem though isn't tanks being OP, it's bruisers just being shit. They can't duel tanks in lane early on since they have too much defensive stats and get too much damage from grasp while you don't have enough health to deal with that harass. But they do have enough health and sustain to deal with it.
If I'm destroying a Jax in a level 1 duel with Jarvan running grasp it just means bruisers suck. ADC and mages have no real problems vs tanks at the moment, but bruisers have nothing against them.
meowwow76 votesisn't jarvan a bruiser and jax have a meh early game?
Simmoniana2 votesJarvan is a bruiser with identity issues. He can be great as tank and he takes more advantage of grasp than jax does.
Jax does have a meh early game, but before new runes you did beat jarvan early game, now jax doesn't really beat anyone. Not sure why anyone would bother with jax in his current state.
Troll for Trump6 votesUm.
Insert outdated, 100% point-and-click fighter that most likely has been meta at most a few months ago anyway
Vi, Udyr, Panth, J4, and Shyv all fit that.
Bruiser Panth and J4 aren't actually doing super hot as bruisers rather than assassin/lethality builds
And I think generally people are complaining about lane bruisers, rather than jg bruisers. Jg tends to always be more flexible.
In that case, your list is narrowed down to:
And that's just bruisers, ignoring all the subclasses.
Chembaron Yamada2 votesJust to be correct, Vi is neither outdated, nor 100% point&click.
Troll for Trump1 votesShe is relatively outdated, and the only main thing that keeps her relevant is her point and click R. She's not completely point and click, true, but neither are most bruisers technically.
Yaśuo Main3 votesI'm confused, not because of how weird and vague this post is, but because there isn't a 100% point and click fighter, or a significantly outdated one. Maybe Skarner, but he isn't entirely 100% point and click.
(almost had an oh shit moment because I forgot about the one thing that isn't point and click on skarner)
MuffledGarbage3 votesFighters =/= bruisers
are not in the same subclass as .
is a scaling lategame Skirmisher/Diver.
is ascaling lategame Skirmisher/Diver.
is an earlygame Lany bully Skirmisher/slayer.
They all have ways of getting IN to fights but no way of escaping.
Is a unique scaling bruiser.
Is a midgame bruiser.
is a unique scaling Skirmisher.
and can not get into fights very easily( has to burn his Ult if he wants to engage which leaves him very vulnerable afterwards and during his Ult) ( has to hit his E and then attempt to walk up to whoever his E hit, assuming that it hit at all)
Was this a meme post?
if so I'd recommend the Memes and Games area for you.
Since this probably wasn't a Meme post.
Bruisers are actually in a bad spot in terms of game impact.
If a 
doesn't beat the enemy 
and go 7/1 before lane phase ends, his team has a MUCH lower chance of winning, due to the fact that Bruisers need to be TWO TIMES ahead of everyone else in order to be as much of an asset to their team as Tanks, Assassins, Junglers, and Supports are.
DragonShea1 votesFighters =/= bruisers
They all have ways of getting IN to fights but no way of escaping.
Was this a meme post?
if so I'd recommend the Memes and Games area for you.
Since this probably wasn't a Meme post.
Bruisers are actually in a bad spot in terms of game impact.
If a
Dude, You are getting a lot of facts wrong there.
Shyvana is a jugg with an ult dash.
Pantheon is a Skirmisher/diver, not skirmisher/slayer, that is just like saying that Lux is a Burst Mage/Mage.
Yorick is a juggernaut and And WW is a Diver/jugg hybrid similar to Renekton in that their Dash is sub-par but their are closer in survivability to juggs than other divers like Vi and Camille.
When you say "Unique scaling" I just think that it's a clear fallacy of what a uniquely scaling champ is, because it' only champs like
, 
, 
and to a small extend that have unique scaling.
All the champs you have mentioned are part of the bruiser or fighter class But the list goes like this:
Diver:
Diver hybrid: (Jugg hybrid) (Skirmisher hybrid)
Juggs:
And before you ask. Yes Juggs can have a dash, but it's tied to a condition. It much either be gated by an ult or be made sub-par compared to other dashes.
PhearBunny2 votesI cant really even think of a bad bruiser?.. Ban Vayne, problem solved.
Simmoniana2 votesxin shyv ww are junglers, Yorick is broken. Pantheon isn't a bruiser, Jarvan is more of a tank. People are just going grasp on Jarvan top anyway since with grasps and the health / defensive stats he bullies bruisers like jax out of lane. Though Jarvan is a bit overpowered, Riot is nerfing the wrong thing though they need to nerf his base armor he got too much of that in the patch (not his Q damage, though I'll be okay with reverting Q damage and nerfing armor on him he's kind of op'd).
AirKingNeo2 votesWawick, Shyvana, Vi, Urgot, and Udyr aren't doing so hot.
Plus you're forgetting the class, as a whole, is weak due to poor itemization and item costs.
redniwediS1 votesThis is why Riot came up with more champion classes, so that terms like Bruiser get filtered out. Bruiser casts far too wide of a net to mean anything useful anymore.
Ljubezen1 votes<<insert outdated, 100% point-and-click fighter that most likely has been meta at most a few months ago anyway>> AKA 
Pumping Iron1 votesUrgot? Strong?
Mandalorian 1171 votesReally all champions in the game can be viable if done right. Yea the meta might disagree with that, but after seeing someone go ap bruiser 
jungle and win, I just stopped caring about the meta.
dogehkiin1 votes99% of the "bruisers" in the OP are junglers and 50% of them are divers, people complain about toplane bruisers being weak, Trundle Olaf Darius and many others
