there is absolutely 0 reason why you shouldn't be able to itemize against 2k instant true damage come late game.
oh and mid game she's doing 1k true damage so this isn't something she does at like 50 mins, she's doing high instant true damage at 20-30 minutes.
Dreadlocks3 votesYeah I would rather fight old fiora over this crap.
SwapShadows3 votesYeah I would rather fight old fiora over this crap.
old fiora was aids but new fiora is orgy space alien meteor aids.
god forbid you are a squishy late game, she will do 2k instant true damage while doing 1-2k AD damage.
disgusting.
Dreadlocks3 votesI havnt felt so lost for counters since Katarina was penta killing in my games.. Now when ever i have to vs Garen, Darius or Fiora -(especially fiora) i am just lost for ways to play around her. In many match ups there are counter picks, some of which I can manage to win or go even, even if i'm the one being countered.. but Fiora.. unless you pick quinn i suppose is a popular counter, you are probably screwed.
SwapShadows2 votesI havnt felt so lost for counters since Katarina was penta killing in my games.. Now when ever i have to vs Garen, Darius or Fiora -(especially fiora) i am just lost for ways to play around her. In many match ups there are counter picks, some of which I can manage to win or go even, even if i'm the one being countered.. but Fiora.. unless you pick quinn i suppose is a popular counter, you are probably screwed.
there's ways to deal with garen and darius, albeit hard asf.
there is literally nothing you can do against fiora, she will burst the living shit out of you without you being able to itemize against her.
Dreadlocks2 votes76% ban rate for Fiora only 2nd to Darius who is 89% like what the actual fuck is that? If you look past the 5 most recently reworked champions Fiora, Darius, Garen, Morde and Skarner. (all of which have a 63% + ban rate) The next closest champion's ban rate is 22.89 @ Gangplank. This is disgusting.
source: http://champion.gg/statistics/#?roleSort=&sortBy=general.banRate&order=descend&search=
SwapShadows2 votes76% ban rate for Fiora only 2nd to Darius who is 89% like what the actual fuck is that? If you look past the 5 most recently reworked champions Fiora, Darius, Garen, Morde and Skarner. (all of which have a 63% + ban rate) The next closest champion's ban rate is 22.89 @ Gangplank. This is disgusting.
source: http://champion.gg/statistics/#?roleSort=&sortBy=general.banRate&order=descend&search=
honestly the only reason darius's banrate is higher is because hes on the "ban all juggernauts train" in reality Fiora is much more cancer to deal with but they are both disgusting.
something tells me the last good rework that wasn't complete cancer was sion
Dreadlocks2 votesYeah sion's is pretty healthy, he has clear strengths and weaknesses. Ashe's wasn't too bad either. But Holy Shit:
and pre nerfs...
SwapShadows2 votesYeah sion's is pretty healthy, he has clear strengths and weaknesses. Ashe's wasn't too bad either. But Holy Shit:
"hey lets give everyone % damage, true damage, tons of cc and mobility and no counterplay, that'll work"
Dreadlocks2 votesYou forgot: Bullshit amount of healing.
SwapShadows1 votesYou forgot: Bullshit amount of healing.
right? why do they all need a way to heal themselves.
Morde can heal, garen can regen like crazy, darius can heal, fiora can heal and im pretty sure skarner has a way to heal but I might be incorrect on the skarner one.
Dreadlocks1 votesSkarner cant.. but he can get bluebuff + mana regen with his spires. lol
SwapShadows2 votesSkarner cant.. but he can get bluebuff + mana regen with his spires. lol
yea these reworks need to stop....
HolyCrapItsMe2 votesskarner cant heal, but he does have loads of mana regen on his passive (he does have a strong shield too)
Matezoide2 votes76% ban rate for Fiora only 2nd to Darius who is 89% like what the actual fuck is that? If you look past the 5 most recently reworked champions Fiora, Darius, Garen, Morde and Skarner. (all of which have a 63% + ban rate) The next closest champion's ban rate is 22.89 @ Gangplank. This is disgusting.
source: http://champion.gg/statistics/#?roleSort=&sortBy=general.banRate&order=descend&search=
The Juggernauts are still on the ''MUST BAN!!!1'' train. They all got nerfed and are much more manageable now.
Dreadlocks2 votesUh no.. Fiora is still strong AF, you must be a player of these champions and just like the roflstomps
Matezoide1 votesUh no.. Fiora is still strong AF, you must be a player of these champions and just like the roflstomps
Fiora is a juggernaut now?
Dreadlocks2 votesPretty sure you made that comparison first.
SwapShadows1 votesThe Juggernauts are still on the ''MUST BAN!!!1'' train. They all got nerfed and are much more manageable now.
there's barely anything manageable about disgusting champions that have little counterplay to them.
I don't enjoy being the villian and getting 2 shotted because I killed 2 of his allies, I don't enjoy darius healing 30% of his HP every few seconds.
I think you get the point
HolyCrapItsMe1 votesYou dont enjoy it, but avoiding darius' axe' blade and staying 600 units away from garen (I realise its tough, but blame DMP) is a lot more manageable than never going within 3000 units of a fiora unless you have 3 allies with you.
Kivolan1 votesNo, they really didn't.
Darius can heal for even more now, he just has to hit another champion with it.
They took like 5 move speed from Garen. Big whoop.
stealthfox942 votesAll the QQ about true damage.
SwapShadows1 votesAll the QQ about true damage.
no i don't care about Vayne's true damage
I care that Fiora gets to do 2k instant true damage on top of 2k instant Ad damage while getting a full HP heal at the end and 2 second dashes.
The Sword Saint2 votesTrue damage that requires several seconds of precise telegraphed movement around all four sides of a target within 8 seconds while built full ad glass cannon....
...I guess some people might define that as instant. I mean, even cho, darius, and garen ults have enough of a windup to be blocked with spellshields, parry, untargetability, zhonias, etc. and those are so fast compared to fiora's ult minigame as to be laughable.
SwapShadows1 votes[{quoted}](name=The Sword Saint,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EsAu8wPt,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2015-09-21T05:20:39.148+0000)
True damage that requires several seconds of precise telegraphed movement around all four sides of a target within 8 seconds while built full ad glass cannon....
...I guess some people might define that as instant. I mean, even cho, darius, and garen ults have enough of a windup to be blocked with spellshields, parry, untargetability, zhonias, etc. and those are so fast compared to fiora's ult minigame as to be laughable.
mid-late game fiora can get 2 sides almost instantly due to her dash.
She is able to get 3 sides in under 2 seconds due to 1 being free from activation since she's already on one of the sides, the second due to her first dash and the 3rd and possibly 4th due to the slow and a extra dash
The Sword Saint3 votesYour scenario assumes that she has q off cooldown when she's ulting, so what did she do? Walk up to them completely unopposed? Maybe she gets the second hit free, but even with a slow isn't the target trying to walk so that she can't just hit the next point? Isn't the target or any teamate trying to cc her or slow her or burst her down? If she stopped to parry, don't you have a whole second while she's rooting herself to continue kiting away so that she has a hard time getting to the next vital?
You only need to make it hard on her for 8 seconds at most, but thats aside from the point that none of this is instant aside from maybe the first vital (lets be real, it isn't because the ult has a half second delay before you can even start hitting any vitals because it uses the same timing to show up as when any vital appears from her passive).
HolyCrapItsMe1 votesWell at least shes a rare case of true damage, not like every new champion or champion rework has it.
sarcasm aside, I hate fiora so much, sometimes I wake up, eat breakfast, brush my teeth, sit down at the computer saying to myself "yeah, lets play some league!" so I open the launcher, click the big orange "launch" button, start putting in my password while I notice the project yi log in screen and I think to myself "man, those project skins are so cool, wish I had one or two of those." then I think about some of them and remember fiora has one. then I remember fiora is a champion on league of legends. I immidiatly press the X button at the corner of the log in screen and go back to sleep. thats how much I hate fiora. (it looks like im joking, but I really do decide not to play league of legends some days just because I dont want to risk playing against a fiora.)
SwapShadows1 votesWell at least shes a rare case of true damage, not like every new champion or champion rework has it.
sarcasm aside, I hate fiora so much, sometimes I wake up, eat breakfast, brush my teeth, sit down at the computer saying to myself "yeah, lets play some league!" so I open the launcher, click the big orange "launch" button, start putting in my password while I notice the project yi log in screen and I think to myself "man, those project skins are so cool, wish I had one or two of those." then I think about some of them and remember fiora has one. then I remember fiora is a champion on league of legends. I immidiatly press the X button at the corner of the log in screen and go back to sleep. thats how much I hate fiora. (it looks like im joking, but I really do decide not to play league of legends some days just because I dont want to risk playing against a fiora.)
that was so funny and sad to read
but yea look what fiora is doing, she's scaring people.