Mid: HEY CAN I HAVE BLUE Me: Sure thing ADC: DO YOU MIND IF I TAKE YOUR BIRDS Me: Alright Support: Hey good job going 13/1/7 Me: Thanks, I hope I get my last S this game
Riot: You get an S-, not enough CS for that S man
wow
No wonder people are so toxic
ModKnightsKemplar51 votesI do wonder sometimes about the weight of cs on mastery scores... is especially aggravating on Howling Abyss.
FilDaFunk12 votesPoke? No thanks, I need CS for an S.
Unvictus1 votesThat's not really that much of a problem on ARAM as you don't get mastery lvl 6 &7 tokens on ARAM. Only thing getting an S does is get you a chest. And if you're like me you have way more chests than you know what to do with and not enough keys.
ModKnightsKemplar5 votesSee, I'm the opposite. I have 12 keys and no chests right now, so I'm always a little annoyed when I get an A+ on aram with some rando champ I never play.
Unvictus4 votesOh really!? Wanna trade? Lol
ModKnightsKemplar2 votesI wish we could lol
Iźuku Midoriya2 voteslet me guess, you only play arams? My brother has like 76 key fragments and no chests
ModKnightsKemplar1 votesMostly ranked, actually. I just play pretty regularly, and usually with the same 5 champs or so. shrug
I Like Teemo1 votes12 keys and no chests? dud i have like 27 chests and im already melted through my 4 free keys for the month
Cereal4201 voteswtf howwwww
I Like Teemo1 votesi have enough champs and play them all enough that i get S's frequently... basically if the champ is a mage, play support and take ignite... you get an S if you go 1-8/0/10-20 basically
and whenever a chest comes off the 6 day cooldown i earn it straight away
Cereal4201 votessame lol. i have like 40 key fragments and no chests because i only get S alot on 2 champs but i only play those 2 champs
Velzard of Koz5 votesI don't even know what has the weight? Score on ARAM feels random. I can go like 20/3/10 with barely any cs and get A+, then I once played as Ryze, didn't really think I had spectacular score in anything and somehow got S- (or maybe even S).
Danjeng1 votesMastery scores are relative to champion. Most Ryze players don't do very well, so you can easily obtain an S. For example, I usually get good scores on Urgot. I kid you not, I once got an S- for going 3/4/? as Urgot ADC, while having mediocre CS.
It Hertz When IP4 votesEven Riot's mastery system isn't sure what to do with Urgot.
Elikain2 votesOn every champion i own but i don't have an S- on, i get A+ at most on ARAM. On every champion i don't own, i get S- after a few tries. When i play with friends and they get an S- or more, Riot gives me a champion i don't own or have a chest on already so no chests for me...
We really need that Mastery Score transparency in the near future as it's really bad when you don't really know in which area you need to improve in. You just don't know how close you were cutting it and just how much better you need to get in order to nab that S.
AwesomeGuyDj1 votesThey wont release the formula for calculating because they dont want people to play for certain things (I.E cs)
Elikain1 votesWell, i understand that part. If they did, people would play only for the stats and grades, not to win. If you can get an S either way, why play for the quality when you can just inflate your score and pretend you did good when in actuality, you never did anything but farmed lanes all game to hit that CS score for example?
But i think that they said they do think they can be more transparent when it comes to mastery scores when they update the system. It's on their to-do list, i don't think it's a priority at the moment.
NAY Wrecksauce17 votessince when does your team ask for your camps....
TheSingularity5 votesWhen I tell them to and deny them until they comply. They don't ask and I secure it. They ask without demanding and they get it.
NAY Wrecksauce7 votesIn my games if the mid laner wants blue buff he spam pings for blue and if you don't give it he will either flame you for 5+ minutes, afk, run it down mid a couple times. In mid game if you aren't near your buffs or camps and your team wants them they take it no matter how much you ping them.
It Hertz When IP4 votesI'm in Wood V. My camps never get stolen, but only because my teammates don't remember they exist.
BakedLotion2 votesIn my games if the mid laner wants blue buff he spam pings for blue and if you don't give it he will either flame you for 5+ minutes, afk, run it down mid a couple times. In mid game if you aren't near your buffs or camps and your team wants them they take it no matter how much you ping them.
People spam "on my way" to blue buff when I'm clearing it and then I take it myself. Then they flame lmfao.
I main mid lane and I've never asked for blue buff in my life. If it's mid-late game and it's sitting there, I'll solo it, but never in laning phase Why can't people just manage their mana better
Blue buff isn't even a necessity. If anything, it just makes the enemy jungler want to gank you even more
TheThundersRoar1 votesIt's true that the blue buff is at the jungler's discretion to give away, since sometimes the jungler badly needs the exp/gold or the mana. However, you should realize that sometimes it's better to give blue to the mage.
They don't need blue, but a well-used blue can be used to completely demolish a lane. Hell, I sometimes give FIRST blue to the level 2 Ahri and watched hell break loose. I've also had to lane against the level 3 Xerath with blue and trust me, it ain't fun.
BakedLotion1 votesIt's true that the blue buff is at the jungler's discretion to give away, since sometimes the jungler badly needs the exp/gold or the mana. However, you should realize that sometimes it's better to give blue to the mage.
They don't need blue, but a well-used blue can be used to completely demolish a lane. Hell, I sometimes give FIRST blue to the level 2 Ahri and watched hell break loose. I've also had to lane against the level 3 Xerath with blue and trust me, it ain't fun.
I never said I never give it I give blue based on my mid laner's skill. I ONLY tell you to come to mid if I see you're doing well or going even with the enemy laner. Chances are, if your jungler doesn't tell you to get blue, he doesn't think you're worthy of it.
ZapMyHeart1 votesPeople spam "on my way" to blue buff when I'm clearing it and then I take it myself. Then they flame lmfao.
I main mid lane and I've never asked for blue buff in my life. If it's mid-late game and it's sitting there, I'll solo it, but never in laning phase Why can't people just manage their mana better
Blue buff isn't even a necessity. If anything, it just makes the enemy jungler want to gank you even more
removed the '2nd blue goes to mid' rule.
Ok sure but why1 votesWhen I'm too busy ganking to say "I need CS too"
Durzaka7 votesThe mastery system really needs to be fixed for Junglers. The weight of CS is way too heavy.
Ive had a game where (it ended at 20) I was like 9/2/8 as Lee Sin. But I only had about 70 CS. But I had gotten 2 dragons (solo), a Rift Herald, and had ganked every lane like a mother fucker.
Only got an A+.
Mimr1 votesThe mastery system really needs to be fixed for Junglers. The weight of CS is way too heavy.
Ive had a game where (it ended at 20) I was like 9/2/8 as Lee Sin. But I only had about 70 CS. But I had gotten 2 dragons (solo), a Rift Herald, and had ganked every lane like a mother fucker.
Only got an A+.
Lee is a hard champion to get an S with because he has a HUGE userpool and a pubstomper if you're good at him. Because there are so many samples (and also many samples with good results from Lee mains that stomp random games) it's harder to stand out and get that S.
TheThundersRoar1 votesIt's not just Lee, it's any jungler that doesn't farm their asses off. Try going 10/0/15 on Volibear but with 40 CS and see if you can even get an A+. I'd know, I mained him and gotten these scores for half of season 6 and never hit rank 6.
Divine Irelia1 votesLee is a hard champion to get an S with because he has a HUGE userpool and a pubstomper if you're good at him. Because there are so many samples (and also many samples with good results from Lee mains that stomp random games) it's harder to stand out and get that S.
This hasn't really been the case in my personal experience, as I got Lee from mastery 4 to 7 in one day.
(Then again I always rush tiamat and farm like crazy)
Quil Evrything4 votesyou're doing it wrong. you're supposed to make up cs, by covering lanes when laner needs to back.
GayFluffyUnicorn1 votesAs if jungler understand that concept. Can't tell how many times i got ganked, killed in midlane and my jungler then does raptors and watch two people killing full health midtower 1 in one wave. Or when i TP from top to bot for some sick LC$ playZ and see my jungler at krugs backporting instead of covering top tower which in return will be taken...
TheThundersRoar1 votesYour junglers were probably being idiots in a good chunk of these times. However, you have to understand that when jungling, you can't just show up wherever, or you get punished.
If I show my face in a lane to cover, I immediately lose map pressure. A good enemy jungler can take dragon, gank the other lanes, or counter-jungle. Knowing where I am, he can predict where I'm going, ward up, and warn his laners. Or he can farm safely and back to buy.
If I show up in a lane to cover, I am also wasting a lot of time. If it's 7 minutes, dragon is up, bot lane needs a gank, and my red buff is up in 30 seconds, I need to back right now. I need to hit red in time, reach level 6, gank bot, and contest dragon. I really, really can't afford to go mid and kill those 5 minions. The tower will just have to eat it.
That being said, there is no excuse for a jungler who let a tower die because he wanted to kill those baby raptors.
GhostOfTsushima3 votesJungle Camp are still Jungler camp, if you steal camp, thats like stealing cs in lane
The only time you should take cs from Jungler is when lane phase is over or the jungler agree to let you have it
I wonder how my laner would love it if I just decided to go take their cs in Lane
Ok sure but why2 votesThe difference is my birds are just sitting there, and the 1/2/4 ADC decides to take it while I'm off getting a triple kill somewhere else
Like thanks
AlienPrimate4 votesIt is inefficient to not use the camps. If the jungler is pushing bottom lane and you are walking by red buff to go from middle lane to top lane there is no sense in not taking it. If you don't take it, it will just sit there for another 2+ minutes collecting dust. That is the same as not using your ult to secure a kill because you want to save it for a later time. If you can get gold while putting something on cooldown then do it.
Paroe2 votesIt is inefficient to not use the camps. If the jungler is pushing bottom lane and you are walking by red buff to go from middle lane to top lane there is no sense in not taking it. If you don't take it, it will just sit there for another 2+ minutes collecting dust. That is the same as not using your ult to secure a kill because you want to save it for a later time. If you can get gold while putting something on cooldown then do it.
Its a lot more efficient for a jungler to clear the jungle because they get something like an additional 50% gold. Its generally good practice to; A) Ask for buffs. B) Ask for camps. C) Only take camps if you need that extra hundred gold for your next item
But dont steal camps, dont steal buffs, dont steal jungle obhjectives, and dont steal scuttles. The jungler needs that gold a LOT more than you do unless their name is Elise or Lee-sin
Aamano3 votesi tried over and over, months and months to get an S for my Evelynn i'd go 15/0. i'd get a Pentakill nope. its only worth an A
finally i got pissed and started queuing up as Eve Mid 2 games later i had my last 2 S tokens i got the same kills and same ganks but i was judged as a laner not as a jungler
PrinceOfStorms1 votesThat's because your grade is determined based on how people do with your champion in your role.
Sinlaire1 votesAs a Vi main I suspect your problem is along the lines of my problem when trying to get an S in the jungle.
The only people that play Vi and Eve are people who know how to play them. they aren't just a "free week lets try it" champion by any means. The only people who play them are the ones that are gonna play them 25-100+ games or play something else entirely.
Which means you dont get noobs and casual players hoards dragging down the skill ceiling for high level grades. I cant remember the last time i got anything less than a B+ on Vi even in my worst games and i've gotten maybe a dozen S- games since turning Mastery 6 but i'm still a single token short.
I might try to cheese it out in a top lane game but that feels cheap. i want to earn it. I earned my final Mastery ^ token playing ADC Vi for fun and stomped in a normals. I struggle to do it again when i can't earn it where she's "supposed" to be.
OMGSoAnnoying1 votesYeah, there are some jungler champs with very dedicated player bases.
You see a lot of Master Yi, Zac, Lee Sin, Elise, Jax and Gragas, but when you see that Vi, Eve, or maybe Xin Zhao... be worried, some of them really know that champ. And yes, harder to get an S with them because of it, but it makes ya feel so damn good when you get one :)
ashleytohl1 votesDid you queue as mid lane but jungled? Or did you actually play mid?
Aamano1 votesOh i played Mid. I load out with a Dark Seal and farm a bit until im lv.2 In between farming, i always back away and go invis
come lv.2, i gank whichever lane is set up. Playing Eve mid is sort of like Ivern jungle with Ivern, you have 2 supports with Eve mid, you have 2 gankers. Eve can slip out of lane very easily and then can get to Bot or Top quickly because she's in the middle of the map
If everything goes as planned, you have a few ganks under your belt and a stacking Mejais (I play Eve as a bursty AP Assassin)
i've played Eve mid a few times and its always been successful
ashleytohl1 votesI see! Very helpful information! I'll try this though the other day sometime after I responded back to you, I did get one S for mastery 7 token. lol. Usually if the game is really good to get an S, team surrenders early so it's not super easy. Do you mind letting me know the items you build as I usually build her straight AD or tank AD
Aamano1 votesmy default Jungle build is:
pretty much in order.
I get Gunblade for the mixed damage and so i can have sustain in and out of the jungle (i used to get old Rageblade) combined with Lich Bane is my primary burst Rylai for the slows on Q and Rabadons for a chunk of power
in Mid i swap out the jungle item for a Mejais but if i can't keep 20+ stacks, i get a Luden's Echo
playing her Mid is a gamble though, because if you fall behind its alot harder to catch up since you're going to be away from the lane alot
I always feel nervous when i use it because im not confident in it always succeeding lol, but on the rare occasions i've played it, it didn't let me down
Ra1uga3 votesIf there are any zed players out here, why do some of them get so sentimental if I dont give them a blue buff? Energy already regens fast enough and the cdr i guess? but i don't know too much on zed so help pls
ZapMyHeart2 votesWhen I play Kindred and my team decides to take my mark that they clearly see that I'm working on...
[zombie-brand-mindblown]
Mimr2 votesI got an S- as Rek'Sai the other day while playing a completely average game, even slightly below average. The thing was however that I soloed two dragons and rift herald, so at least for junglers objective damage seems to play a large role in boosting your rating.
FortisDominus2 votesNo wonder I get 'S' from jungle all the time
Mid: Can I have blue pls?
Me: Did you pick jungle? then the answer is no xD
ADC: Can I have golems?
Me: even though you lost your turret in 7 minutes? you're good without them.