how do you fight against this abomination and disease called vayne?

Frius··3 votes·704 views

u cant outrun her ,especially if you are a support like zyra does NOT NEED a last whisper all game,because 2 attacks / second with unlimited true damage no cd 2 s stun at all ranks at range R more ad more speed ,liike already you couldnt run aaway from her and has botrk + zeal items

3 ad was like biggest joke ever ,kayle got -5 so ?

the true damage needs to be halved 4% or passive lowered or E scalling stun because last maxed skill lasts 2 seconds at all times

after this ,there is the other ugly abomination ,jinx ,critting 4k damage aoe with rocket

6 Comments

Gunnlaug2 votes

Don't come in here and shit talk a champion you know nothing about. Vayne is perfectly fine. She has a very high skill gap that makes her one of the hardest ADCs to play next to draven. Vayne has very pronounced weaknesses: One, she's a Duelist which means you're gonna get destroyed 1v1. Two, a very poor laning phase, crush her early and keep her down. A 0/5 vayne is practically useless. 3, Vayne cannot get CCed at all! If you do CC her which is what you should be doing, you will destroy her hp bar in seconds! 4, Vayne has one of the shorter ranges of all ADCs makingh it harder to position herself in teamfights. 5, Ultimate steal is easily compromised with a 100G payment of a pink ward.

Some strengths: She's a tank shredder, she has great mobility under the right hands and becomes very strong in the late game.

Vayne Isn't op, she's popular right now. They are 2 different things.

J Eevo1 votes

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She has a very high skill gap that makes her one of the hardest ADCs to play next to draven.

Vayne Isn't op, she's popular right now. They are 2 different things.

You claim a champion has a high skill gap. The fact that she's so popular(which you agree with) yet maintains a high winrate proves that's wrong. Your other points are fair. and apply to EVERY OTHER ADC

EVERY ADC that is 0/5 is worthless.

Dies after getting CC'd? that is LITERALLY EVERYONE that builds squishy.

Short range? That argument is actually the most bullshit one, her range is the average for an adc, the ones that have MORE are called HIGH RANGE adcs

Vayne Is overplayed a LOT now, and why wouldn't you play vayne when she's not only great but fits the meta perfectly? The problem is that every other adc got so abused by the balance team that she's left with free reign over botlane and that's what people are complaining about.

Wolfram Oxford2 votes

I don't think you know much about balance. There is something that Riot takes account into when designing a champion; how will it be used. Vayne can be deadly when played correctly but has a lot of counter play. She has very low range, and her base stats are horrible, but to compensate she has a lot of out play ability and her kit makes her viable even when behind. If there is a good Vayne in low elo the player will quickly advance to playing against people of an appropriate skill level, these people know how to face the champion and will make it hard for the player to just win because they do a lot of damage. In low elo the low base stats and hard to use mechanics hinder the play, making Vayne's kit semi-effective but, the champion is nonetheless a ranged dps champion with an ad steroid and percent max health true damage, this will compensate for the players lack of knowledge for the champion. But I am not saying that Riot is taking into account your low elo games as part of her balancing, the higher elo people show the true strengths and weaknesses of the champion and give a more accurate representation of that champion's power. If you want to know what really can beat a Vayne, it isn't nerfs, its what you might know of, a magical thing we call hard cc, preferably targeted. She is prone to harass in lane, hard cc in teamfights, and strong dive/siege comps. All of which are available to you. There are champions like Renekton, Warwick, Velkoz, Katarina, Malzahar, Xerath, etc, who are exceptionally good against vayne, however with nerfs this arsenal of champions that can be used against Vayne would further expand with nerfs that would do what you want, which is make her vulnerable to all champions. If Riot was to do something like this they would add some major compensation to her kit, which we can see with Ahri changes, is just as bad. So for now I would suggest finding out the weakness of champions who have existing counters, and use them instead of asking for a nerf against your most hated ad carry :)

Frius1 votes

PLEASE fking stop with very low range ,550 is a very good and standard range very low range is urgots ,425 500 sivir and lucian

Frius1 votes

riven = vayne = toxic gameplay

Habitz1 votes

Poke her during laning, as a support/adc grab a vision ward on 1st b for her ult, don't drop that ward till she ults, and while fighting her never get in between her and a wall. Some champs you can't 1v1 but with teamwork anything is possible.

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