Tell me one reason to reconect to a game

Arcane Blue Boi·Dec 15, 2017·270 votes·6,605 views

My pc crashed, i joined back to a game. I managed to catch up and we won the game. I got 20 mins 5 games leaver buster and still lost lp for that game Considering this, give me one good reason to reconect to the game.

Edit: downvote me to hell, im ok with that. This is one of those situations everybody would claim to do whats morally/socially/etc correct but if the situation actually came in they would'nt give a fuck about whats morally or socially correct.

Second edit: never thought a post of mine could get so uch atention, thank you all [slayer-jinx-catface]

Third edit: let me clear some confusion to all who try to pull the *insert outrageous voice ''oh but you need to leave S E V E R A L! times to get a leave buster, so yaknow, thats bullshit!!11''. I wont enter in long detail. Just consider this. I didnt play for 8 months, and i started playing again. The first game i went afk after those 8 months was a 20 min leave buster. So stop claiming the system to work as you want it to, and accept reality.

112 Comments

RabblerouserDec 15, 201790 votes

I think LeaverBuster should be less strict for people who rejoin.

Recently, there was a MAAJOOR fiber cut here in the southeast that affected several ISPs. It was due to the winter storm. Infrastructure in the southeast doesn't really do well in the cold (we're very, very resistant to burying our data lines, keeping them on telephone poles :P). This fiber cut was a LONG way from where I live. It was a major line further up north in Georgia. But the fiber failure affected people far away from the cut, from NC all the way down to Alabama and Florida.

I came back to the game, caught up, contributed, and even WON.... aaaaaaaaaaand... I was penalized and received nothing for that game (it was norms) due to "AFK behavior". Now apply this to a ranked game. To work extra hard to catch up and receive nothing because of an automated system.

I don't support Leavers... but I don't think the automated systems should be so strict as they are now. There are times when there are just extenuating circumstances. Instead, the systems should only automatically take action if someone reports.

KirisomiaDec 18, 20171 votes

yes i agreeeee. I have some wifi crashes (not a ton) but reconnecting would make sense. ESPECIALLY IF SOMEONE DECIDES TO TROLL YOU AND SAY THAT YOU SAID "fuck this" and left in dm's, and you reconnect and someone says "fucking afk's" when we lose

GreenetteDec 16, 201747 votes

I had to afk briefly to settle my baby back to sleep, wasn't even gone long enough to get the in game pop up telling me I was afk. Sat down, told them why I was afk and apologized.

Team called me a ~~pussy~~ and told me to punch my baby back to sleep. I asked for a x9 and said I'm going afk for good.

I'm not looking forward to any potential punishment from Riot but there are times when I think its absolutely acceptable to afk. I may have "ruined the game for 4 innocent people" but if someone's language and behavior is so disgusting it ruins my personal experience I have the right to remove myself from it.

PhDs NutsDec 16, 201721 votes

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I had to afk briefly to settle my baby back to sleep, wasn't even gone long enough to get the in game pop up telling me I was afk. Sat down, told them why I was afk and apologized.

Team called me a ~~pussy~~ and told me to punch my baby back to sleep. I asked for a x9 and said I'm going afk for good.

I'm not looking forward to any potential punishment from Riot but there are times when I think its absolutely acceptable to afk. I may have "ruined the game for 4 innocent people" but if someone's language and behavior is so disgusting it ruins my personal experience I have the right to remove myself from it.

Did the whole team say that, or just one guy? Because I'm totally anti-"Fuck the whole team because this one guy was mean to me" mindset.

On point, there shouldn't be an LP penalty for coming back to a DC'd game and winning. Not even if you rage quit. There should be harsher ban-type penalties (not LP penalties) for obvious rage-quits, though, and you should still report the guy that left.

ªTeemoDec 16, 201712 votes

You were still an ass to the people that didn't say anything...

YoRHa 2BDec 17, 20172 votes

He said that "Team called me"

T4underboltDec 16, 20174 votes

You are not better than them if you do this. Yes they are douche bags and they shouldnt say that, but you afked not for long as you say and you could easily win that. Yet you decided to give up. This is how people who go troll or afk because they didnt get role they wanted act.

Iffy JarlDec 17, 20175 votes

"the right to remove myself from it"

Yeah mute em

KryninDec 17, 20171 votes

Personally, I don't think it's unreasonable to either do what you had to do (I'm guessing you put your baby to sleep before you started), nor is it unreasonable to be upset that someone went AFK, whatever the reason. Even if your reason is, all things considered, a good one - that doesn't in any way mean that your team is not getting punished for it. Bottom line is that they were missing a player for however long, it really doesn't matter why.

So what should you/they do? It seems like you did the right thing, until you decided to AFK on purpose. If they are being assholes and ruining your experience, just put them on mute and report after the match. Otherwise you are making the game less fun for the enemy team as well, as I don't know a single person who thinks 4v5 is fun on either side. That would be following the summoners code, at least.

EedatDec 15, 201714 votes

Because it's the right thing to do? I mean asking why you should return to help your team mates after putting them at a massive disadvantage at no fault of their own really demonstrates what kind of person you are.

SPOILER: Greedy and selfish

Arcane Blue BoiDec 15, 201751 votes

if someone left there is probably a 90% the team with 4 will lose. Why even bother to join in and tryhard if you get the same punishemnt as you 'd get if you didnt.

EedatDec 15, 20175 votes

I managed to catch up and we won the game.

What the actual fuck? The entire point of your thread is that you DCed, came back, and WON then you're immediately going to tell us coming back is a lost cause and you're going to lose anyway? What is the actual point of your thread?

AlmoDec 15, 201724 votes

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What the actual fuck? The entire point of your thread is that you DCed, came back, and WON then you're immediately going to tell us coming back is a lost cause and you're going to lose anyway? What is the actual point of your thread?

Did you even read his full comment?

EedatDec 15, 20174 votes

Did you even read my first comment?

Because it's the right thing to do?

But hey, just completely screw the rest of your team mates because you get nothing out of it right? Dont even try to make any effort because you have nothing to gain personally?

Greedy and selfish

Legitimately exactly what I'm talking about. Since you gain nothing personally you dont give a damn that there are 4 other people on your team that are losing LP because your computer crashed? Fuck em right? "Why even bother"? Cant even queue up for another game until that one is finished but might as well stay DCed lel

Arcane Blue BoiDec 15, 201714 votes

Tell me then, that you play games so your team wins, or you play rankeds so your team wins lps wait, you dont.

Just gave you 2 examples where you do the same as me, but in a different context. hypocricy at its finest ;)

talking to eedat if there is any confusion

EedatDec 15, 20176 votes

I play LoL so my team wins. If I was playing a game and my internet went out for 5 minutes, I would still return to the game as fast as I possibly could even if I knew damn well I was still losing LP. It's a little thing called empathy and caring for others.

Arcane Blue BoiDec 16, 201715 votes

such bullshit, you dont play LoL so your team wins. You play lol because you enjoy it in the first place. It always comes down to ''you'' and ''i''. Because thats how human beings work. You dont install league of legends so you can become good and make your team win, you do so because YOU enjoy the game. Stop trying to claim everything you do is for the good of others, because that just isnt true.

SanKakUDec 16, 20174 votes

Spirituality. Pursue yours and you will understand.

"A physical, or fleshly-minded, person is often excessively concerned about prestige and material pursuits or about defending what he feels are his rights." - https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/watchtower-study-february-2018/what-it-means-to-be-spiritual-person/

I mean, you have a point. Riot could do more to encourage people to behave properly by rewarding them for better behavior. But, as has been seen with the latest version of the honor system, they actually don't care much. They just program things into the game because they can sometimes. Yeah, they keep improving their game but there is a lot of fluff and uselessness instead of looking to make changes that matter like that one with the normal draft. People picking their slot on a team is great but they need to do more things like that.

If you win, you should gain LP, even if it's just 1. I don't see how that's hard to understand. Disconnects while troublesome shouldn't change that.

ˉˉˉˉˉˉDec 16, 20173 votes

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ForeverLaxxDec 16, 20176 votes

Nah, those people are just pretending to be altruists so they can lord their "moral superiority" over you. It's just another thing they do to promote themselves above other people.

Good luck getting them to admit it, though.

AlmoDec 15, 201729 votes

Agreed. Its frustrating. Losing LP after making a real committeemen to win and then losing LP regardless is really bad. Honestly if this happens to me, would drive me not to connect to a game the next time I disconnect.

Arcane Blue BoiDec 15, 201717 votes

thank you for understanding my position instead of just saying OMG THINK ABOUT YOUR POOR TEAM!. It is not motivating rejoining a game if you aint getting anything from it

ˉˉˉˉˉˉDec 16, 201713 votes

Yeah no fuck that shit, I have gradually stopped playing League because of stupid shit like this, among others.

If you lose either way, might as well fucking take a nap or play something else or do fuck all. I'm not wasting 20 more minutes playing a game tryna win if I will get leaverbuster and LP loss either way.

Even if you AFK on purpose, this is in no way justified, since you are legit the reason your team won, since you could have decided to say "fuck it" and went to bed. But you didn't, you pulled through even after the disadvantage of XP and gold, and still won.

Actually fuck that shit. This is doing the opposite of encouraging teamsmanship. I have so much more to say but it's 4 AM

DemainaNyxDec 15, 201711 votes

Yeah, if your connection just dies, you rejoin and win, at least give reduced LP points or something. Like, if you should get 20, only give them 10 or something.

That makes literally no sense that you have a random power outage, reboot and rejoin, only to be punished for something beyond your control. If anything, the fact you came back at all should give you something over just leaving permanently. I mean, this system basically treats 5 minutes of AFKing the same as 50 minutes of AFKing when most will tell you there's a big difference.

ResolutionDec 16, 20179 votes

Don't reconnect if you know your past the leaver timer. Your being punished the exact same for actually trying to reconnect and be there for your team. Enter the game and inform the team your past the leaver timer and that you would have loved continuing and finishing the game, but instead Riot no-longer considers you part of the team and therefore there on there own.

Harsh, but why spend another 20 minutes playing a game your already going to be punished for/gain no LP? You gain nothing by staying to win the game. The systems designed to let your teammates down anyhow? All four of them are meant to loose LP now because they'd rather you not re-connect and try.

BubblyRainbowsDec 15, 20177 votes

Because in 2010, North American waters had 42% of all confirmed unprovoked shark attacks worldwide (32 attacks).

You said to tell you a reason. You didn't say it had to be relevant or logical. Do it for the shark attack victims of 2010!

[slayer-jinx-wink]

Arcane Blue BoiDec 15, 20173 votes

good one lel

McFatalDec 15, 20176 votes

I just had a game in plat where my Varus adc rage quit level 2 after dying once.

Upon realizing we didn’t ff at 15 he joined in at 17 minutes while we were 4v5ing and working our asses off to win the game and got the victory

That’s why buddy.

To prevent people like this varus from getting LP

AlmoDec 15, 20175 votes

Yup, I agree. this guy deserves to get every punishment. My point is for people that don't do it on purpose. You get leaver buster and** 0 LP** if they win the game.

I think the 0 LP is better because it encourages people to fully commit to help their team win instead of just giving up and not joining.

Malix FarwinDec 16, 20174 votes

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I just had a game in plat where my Varus adc rage quit level 2 after dying once.

Upon realizing we didn’t ff at 15 he joined in at 17 minutes while we were 4v5ing and working our asses off to win the game and got the victory

That’s why buddy.

To prevent people like this varus from getting LP

And you point, he should get punished but people coming back increases your win chance regardless. Even if he was just afk split pushing it was preventing the enemy from spliting and taking objectives while you guys could team fight.

WimbledofyDec 16, 20175 votes

He should get banned though anyways, who cares if someone like him got the lp from one game. He was on the winning team, so he gets lp that's how the system should work. He's toxic/intentionally throwing, he should be banned, that's how the system should work.

Scary DoorDec 16, 20176 votes

Sorry, don't buy it.

20 minute queue for five games means you left multiple games in a row. If your computer is that bad then League is not the game for you.

My suspicion is that you were tilted and left a few games and, sure, maybe one game your PC did actually crash, but that's not the exclusive reason that you got a Leaverbuster penalty and you know that. Stop trying to get sympathy from the Boards on a false premise.

LiL Bunnie FuFuuDec 17, 20172 votes

I can leave one game and get stuck in 5 20 minute queue games. It isn't because I'm toxic (honor 5 and I rarely tilt) nor because I want to leave games. In fact today I reported someone who afk'ed entire game because our jungler's game crashed and it took them 15 minutes to reconnect. They could not have been more toxic about it. Rather I get placed in 20 minute queue because several months ago I left too many games due to a combination of IRL stuff taking precedence or my connection going out and refusing to come back at inopportune times.

Since then my connection has (largely) been fixed but I leave once in a while because IRL things demand it. I'd love to finish a game but sometimes I just can't. I don't see how its fair to punish me for things that are outside my control, nor do I understand why you're making assumptions that this guy is lying when he has a perfectly valid point.

Scary DoorDec 17, 20171 votes

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I can leave one game and get stuck in 5 20 minute queue games.

You actually cannot. The system does not work that way. I have had friends that have left games and have not received a penalty, the only thing that happens is you get a message that warns you about leaving games and you must agree to not do it again by typing "I Agree". So long as you do not leave any more games for a fairly lengthy period of time then you will not receive any further sanctions. That's how the system works.

It isn't because I'm toxic (honor 5 and I rarely tilt) nor because I want to leave games.

Leaverbuster is simply about leaving games, period. Irrespective of your reasons, Leaverbuster flags you if you leave games repeatedly or even infrequently and you can get penalized... this does not apply to just ONE game, however.

I don't see how its fair to punish me for things that are outside my control,

I don't see how it's fair to play a game with someone that leaves for whatever reason. If you leave only one game, then the system won't punish you outside of the warning I mentioned, if you do it again or have a pattern of leaving games, then you get punished. As for the classic "things come up that take precedence", that's fine... if you're finding that this is happening frequently enough to where you are getting penalized for leaving games, then League is just not the game for you, simple as that.

This is a team reliant game that requires a certain uninterrupted time commitment, if you cannot fulfill that obligation or feel that there is a chance that you cannot, then do not play. You talk about fairness, but then fail to recognize the fairness regarding the other nine players that you punish by leaving (for whatever reason).

nor do I understand why you're making assumptions that this guy is lying when he has a perfectly valid point.

Because what he said doesn't make sense and if it doesn't make sense then it isn't true. You don't get penalized for leaving one, and only one, game.

LiL Bunnie FuFuuDec 17, 20171 votes

"You talk about fairness, but then fail to recognize the fairness regarding the other nine players that you punish by leaving" I do recognize that but sometimes_ it is not in my control_. I have played thousands of games and rarely leave. I rarely leave because I do not like leaving games because yes, it does suck when people leave. Tell me, where in my post do I fail to recognize the unfairness from both sides?

Arcane Blue BoiDec 19, 20171 votes

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Sorry, don't buy it.

20 minute queue for five games means you left multiple games in a row. If your computer is that bad then League is not the game for you.

My suspicion is that you were tilted and left a few games and, sure, maybe one game your PC did actually crash, but that's not the exclusive reason that you got a Leaverbuster penalty and you know that. Stop trying to get sympathy from the Boards on a false premise.

Nop, 1 game is all it takes me from getting that punishment. And time wont solve that, cus i spent nearly 8 months without playing, and the first game i went afk (after playing again) i was banned already

koshkyraDec 17, 20176 votes

Someone rage quits but sits in fountain occasionally moving in a circle to avoid afk detection

Gets no punishment and moves on to next game untouched

Guy has an innocent PC crash, reconnects 4 minutes later and tries really hard, carries team, recives 3 honors and is encouraging and positive to everyone

Gets 20 minutes added on to his next 5 queue times and a negative mark on his account

This system is so flawed its amazing

Arcane Blue BoiDec 19, 20172 votes

{quoted}

Someone rage quits but sits in fountain occasionally moving in a circle to avoid afk detection

Gets no punishment and moves on to next game untouched

Guy has an innocent PC crash, reconnects 4 minutes later and tries really hard, carries team, recives 3 honors and is encouraging and positive to everyone

Gets 20 minutes added on to his next 5 queue times and a negative mark on his account

This system is so flawed its amazing

this is another point of mine, just didnt want to make a long post. Automated systems never did anything good for anyone.

426287Dec 16, 20173 votes

If you are dc'ing often enough to get leaverbuster, its your own fault. Why should 9 other people suffer because -insert reason- ? If you have shit connection then either deal with it or dont play the game.

SugKukaren5SpännDec 16, 20173 votes

what its not gonna make it suffer for 9 people its only going to make it suffer for 4 people and the other team will win becuase no one gives a f*** its an online game no one would really care.. okey its that one guy who stands in the corner who "maybe" cares :D*[sg-syndra]*

Z3SleeperDec 16, 20173 votes

If I win promos cuz an enemy DC'd I could care less. Hell, I'm the scumbag who takes full advantage of it.

Arcane Blue BoiDec 19, 20171 votes

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If I win promos cuz an enemy DC'd I could care less. Hell, I'm the scumbag who takes full advantage of it.

arent we all? some just dont want to admit they would do it because its moraly wrong.

Ariel the CruelDec 16, 20175 votes

I care. I play with with people that are more interested in a fun game than an easy win.

I'm also unranked master race though. So these things are generally beneath me. ;p

Who is TaliyahDec 16, 20173 votes

I remember in season 3 when I played a toplane game as malphite I suddenly lost internet 8 minutes in. After half an hour my internet finally was restored and I could reconnect to the game that was 40 minutes in. We won shortly after and I still got LP and no punishment.

League a few years back was so much better. Not saying it is fine to afk and return when you feel like so and I am not saying that I deserved to get the LP back then as I did nothing that counted for the win, but I say that it is wrong to take your lp and give you a punishment when you actually get back to the game and played a big role in winning the game.

Pale PirateDec 16, 20173 votes

It would seem that some have forgotten, but bans due to leaving happen only after an amount of leaves/afks. It sucks that you have been banned like that but you were on the tip of being banned for leaving anyway. The system's goal is to reduce leavers and I'm fine with that.

The PussiologistDec 17, 20171 votes

Where does it say anywhere that he was banned?

Malicious FuryDec 16, 20173 votes

I had a bug splat from a game on loading. They voted /remake while I was trying to reconnect. I came back, bought items, then immediately our nexus exploded from the /remake. I didn't get a leaver X on my summoner icon and I was able to queue immediately for a new game. I just got lucky...

PinkajDec 17, 20172 votes

Is there a way for the system to tell between "Exiting the game" and "Disconnection"? 'Cause damn...getting a punishment after genuinely working hard to catch up is...super disappointing... If Riot doesn't acknowledge this in a few patches I guess they really don't care about our input [sg-soraka]

ZeetzDec 17, 20171 votes

Two words, NET NEUTRALITY.

As the FCC rolled back 'net neutrality', ISP and cable providers will most likely throttle back gamers' connections to game servers. As this issue continues to gain optics by end-users and providers, the end of net neutrality will create increase in LB incidents. My hope is RIOT will recognize the players have no control of 'throttling' and 'prioritization' that will undoubtedly affect the entire fan base. In the next few months, RIOT should be monitoring this issue, CLOSELY, and return to modifying LB based on those findings. I suspect many fans will find their games cut short, disconnected, and even blocked to game servers as providers and ISPs begin implementing 'pay to play' bandwidth, or be stuck at the bottom of bandwidth ladder for your region.

The PussiologistDec 17, 20171 votes

you realize this is worse case scenario and if it even happens it wont be for months to years before its escalated to a point that wont matter because the only people who are screwed by this fantasy is people who are way too dependent on certain companies because of their geographical locations. This doesnt screw people who have options so I cant pretend to relate nor care or show compassion towards this fantasy that people exaggerate as if its happening tomorrow and companies are going to screw over customers in a way that forces them to jump ship and lose company integrity. I mean lets be real, no isp is going to self-sabotage its own profits.. stop the bullshit already.