So, Irelia's basic attacks deal 75 bonus true damage and heal her for 30. And that's just on her W.
Tahm's basic attacks deal around 60 magic damage, if you feel like buying attack speed items. And that's on his ult.
Why was Tahm the one that got nerfed?
Dominick Destine3 votesLow cd suppress ability with max HP damage.
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Ok sure but why2 votesBeat a low cd STUN ability with damage that doesn't scale with health.
Valexfor1 votesIrelia can stun you only if you %of health si <= to that of the enemy, also irelia doesn't have 2 health bars and a 32% (or something around that) max hp magic damage ability. But that's just something I came up with, might not be the actual reason.
Ok sure but why1 votesIrelia's ability is always a stun. She can stay in a lane and harass you three times before backing because she relies on having that 99% health to always stun you, every time you go into lane.
TequilaZombie2 votesLet's not even begin to talk about on how stupid it is that the stun completely ruins the purpose of winning trades in lane.
"Hey, I've just won this trade against Irelia, now I can't even trade again with her without giving her a free win".
Meanwhile they add delays to every other skill to promote counterplay.
Valexfor1 votesI've been slowed more than once by an Irelia, it's just that Irelia players are quite good at keeping theyr health level either the same or just a bit lower than the enemy, which is pretty much the only thing you need to learn to play her. And yes, it is an unfair mechanic since it actually means that when you are wining you automatically lose, but it's still better than having the ability to chain a slow into a suppress while also having 2 health bar and having high base damage with good scaling in both ap and hp. Irelia might not be the most balanced champion (which is ironic since she's ionian, and Ionia values balance over everything else), but Tahm also has quite a toxic kit since he's immune to poke but can't be beaten in a prolonged fight since he will place 3 stacks on you, stun you and eat you to chuink you for more than twice the damage he's taken, and he can do this while also permanently cc'ing you so you can't get away.
p.s. sorry for the late answer, lately I hardly log to the boards ^^'.
Dominick Destine1 votes[{quoted}](name=JZ Jora,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EdzryaF0,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2016-07-02T19:47:19.650+0000)
Irelia's ability is always a stun.
Never go full Renekton.
Penns1 votesThat is situational, also locks down Tahm and makes the surpressed champ untargetable. The only reason he really got nerfed was because people found him "annoying" and apparently you need to nerf "annoying" stuff instead of learn to play against it lel
Colgate Gator1 votes[{quoted}](name=Dominick Destine,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EdzryaF0,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-07-02T19:18:20.697+0000)
Low cd suppress ability with max HP damage.
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This, pretty much.
Tahm loves fighters who need to stick around him, he can take the punishment.
TequilaZombie2 votesBetter nerf Irelia. And I mean it this time!
SaltyKracka1 votesBecause Irelia wasn't OP at the time TK was terrorizing every single lane besides mid.
Also, the true damage is an active ability.
...Honestly, I'd be happier if they were both in the gutter.
Ok sure but why1 votesHonestly, how many do you think she can land in five seconds if she has you stunned for half of them?
A good 7 times, not to mention her Q applying it. That's at least 525 additional true damage per ONE trade.
SaltyKracka1 votesDo I sound like I think Irelia doesn't need nerfs?
I'm just giving more clarity on your initial post.
Sneakyy XD1 votes[{quoted}](name=JZ Jora,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EdzryaF0,comment-id=,timestamp=2016-07-02T19:11:47.007+0000) Tahm and Irelia are the same champion
I'm gonna go with "no".
Ok sure but why1 votesI like big ol' dicks.
I can pull that bullshit, too.