Remember when Vayne had a weak lane phase?

She's not really strong in laning phase but she's not exactly weak either

Everything you just said is gospel homie. Also I just want to point out a few things to anyone reading this and already thinking "but...but...". Vayne IS a hyper scaling adc, and she DOES have stronger fighting power than most other scaling ADC's do when it comes to early-mid game. But this is necessary and balanced for the following reasons:

1. Notice I said "fighting power" and not laning. Yes she can kill your ass if you get out of position, but she has no wave clear, is highly susceptible to harass from pretty much everyone but Twitch because of low range, and she is easy to engage on pre-6 because of low range. Engaging on her at 6 only becomes slightly more difficult if she finds a window to use R-Q, even then she problem lost a trade pretty freaking hard.

2. Her range and need to proc silver bolts to get full damage make her MUCH harder to play in team fights than something like Tristana, therefore she has options earlier than Tristana and she comes online earlier. She has to get so close that she is highly impacted by ranged cc and zone control. Think about it, Ori ball on the ground, she can't step into auto range cuz that puts the ball in ult range. She can't step in range to auto Alistar if her E is on cooldown unless Ali's E-Q combo is also on CD. She requires team assistance to hit locked up targets, and she has to play around several more cooldowns than longer range adc's have to therefore making her harder to play and keep dps uptime going, or she has to find 1v1's.

3. BORK build has been nerfed (partly because they moved damage off of W and onto Q which is part of why her laning is slightly better). Why does this matter? It matters because Vayne is not the go to team fighting hyper carry, but she is a hyper carry. It's far easier to carry a 5v5 with Trist or Twitch than Vayne. The BORK build was far more ideal for split pushing and dueling than the IE build. It has lifesteal, a slow, and provides an early powerspike (Brown boots and BORK is far more effective than Brown boots and IE or brown boots and shyv). In the past a BORK Vayne could just run at people and trade with them because of the lifesteal and utility of the BORK (not to mention old BORK had more attack speed and she would be maxing W), now Vayne has to be careful not to take damage on her way in to take the fight and rely on just superior damage output. So while she is an ADC with options outside of fighting with the team, those options become available later than they did for BORK-Silverbolt Vayne, ESPECIALLY if she is playing this off season and there is a lethality Varus and Jayce on the enemy team so she goes Tabi for boots.

Picking Vayne is gamble. You are supposed to shit on it in lane or get shit on by it if you don't, also she is highly punishable in 5v5's so if you elect to take little to no CC, or little to no assassination, yes she will shit on you as well unless you did what you were supposed to in lane and that was bully her. People don't like Vayne because she forces your hand. You have to play to counter her or she very well may get out of control. If you try to go into all in's with her instead of harassing her out of lane or pushing her in, it doesn't work out. I agree sometimes it sucks picking something you don't want to play, or playing a style you're not used to all because they picked a certain champ (vayne, nasus, zed, yi, among others can do this to you). But it's a part of the game people. Picking Varus and then complaining because you couldn't fight a 100-0 battle against avayne during laning is like complaining that a Nasus got out of control when you played Maokai top lane instead of one of the many champs who make his life hell. You have to play strong laner against Nasus or you have to gank him repeatedly. That doesn't make him OP or even good, it just makes him Nasus.

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5. You probably don't know how to trade well against Vayne, if she tumbles forward @ you, you don't just "run for your life" (I see this a lot in lower elo), she will out-movespeed you. Turn and hit that bitch 3 times and drop an E to proc the blight stacks and chunk her for 50% of her health. She WILL lose that trade even if she gets silver bolts on you. You can't just EAT a Vayne Q for free and expect to win lane. When she runs away hit her with a long-range Q for good measure. She will think twice next time she wants to do dumb shit like that.

You think Q + Silver bolts proc will do less than damage than 3 auto + E from varus? Lel no.

And even if that were true Varus' cooldowns early on are massive. Even if SHE DID take more damage she could stay in the trade and get an easy kill.

Varus' cooldowns are like 14 seconds early on Vayne's tumble is on a 6 second cooldown at level 1 and silver bolts procs repeatedly every 3 autos. Absolutely stupid to think Varus can out trade a Vayne in lane.

Idk... tanks kinda roll over her early if you play it right. He strongest lvls are 1-3. After 6 I watch most tanks just slaughter her if she plays top.

I main a melee top laner and Vayne is bad lol. Freelo lane.

Yeah he was even playing Varus in the game that triggered him.

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Compared to champs like MF? She's still got a weak laning phase. Only way she hurts you for free is if she does AA Q AA and crits both

isnt mf to be a lane bully vayne is suppose to be like jinx.

Lethality MF was disgusting. Now they nerfed lethality items.

No. Never.

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Yeah pair her with a Leona and she can 100-0 you with 1 pin against a wall even before they are both lvl6.

Anyone with Leona can 100-0 you off of any hard cc.