ADC Morde's problem is its popularity

Ahristocats··3 votes·525 views

allow me to explain

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/202605103277015042/336612690632114197/unknown.png

yesterday i queued in a soloq without my personal support to play ADC morde, and this was the outcome however i was lucky to get a support that DID NOT complain about playing with morde, and also actually asked a lot of questions on how: -adc morde works -morde's heal on ally works

obviously i answered, and it worked, i could see him throughout the game adapting himself to morde's W but i will not have a clever dude like that in every game

So how is this related to morde's popularity?

Thing is, every SINGLE ADC has to have a support knowing how to play with him. Jhin for instance, if your support is willing to engage while you don't have bullets anymore, your support either wants to lose so badly, or does not know how jhin works

but Jhin has 30% pick rate, you will expect everyone to know how to play with him since they will get used to lane with him Morde on the other hand has a terrible pick rate, no one will know what he does, and this problem forces every morde mains above master (like My Final hour, or Opera) to queue with a premade

one thing that riot can do to improve this situation, one SMALL THING

please either put a morde's guide done by the best morde players (like Van Darkholme) on the client or replace your pointless "did you know sunglasses are great against the sunlight" things when you load, by "did you know, Mordekaiser's W can heal you if you're near enemies" or, "did you know, mordekaiser can enslave dragons if he damages them and his team kills it"

things like that

would be really great to be honnest,

18 Comments

Talon121 votes

ADC implies ATTACK DAMAGE, not ABILITY POWER, you're looking for APC

"did you know you sunglasses are great against the sunlight" things when you load, by "did you know, Mordekaiser's W can heal you if you're near enemies" or, "did you know, mordekaiser can enslave dragons if he damages them and his team kills it"

"Did you know yasuo has one of the highest death averages in the game?" "Did you know yasuo has one of the worst KDA scores?" "Yasuo is very easily killed" "Taliyah can cast her e Unravelled Earth after her w Seismic Shove."

Yea they would be helpful and insightful with truth, the problem is, no one would give half a fuck anyway

Ahristocats1 votes

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ADC implies ATTACK DAMAGE, not ABILITY POWER, you're looking for APC

name it however you would like

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Yea they would be helpful and insightful with truth, the problem is, no one would give half a fuck anyway

you listed them all which means you read them before, and which means you memorized them

this just proves that those insightful things are memorized by people, and they would remember how his W WORKS

Talon121 votes

They may be true, and I may know them, but people are still partial to the whole "Unkillable broken always 20/0" viewpoint on yasuo, meaning they don't give half a fuck about the truth, and only believe what benefits them

Ahristocats1 votes

we're not talking about a fact, we're talking about a tip that riot can give when people are playing with mordekaiser

Breaku1 votes

Someday I'll get to support a morde adc

Mordepool1 votes

This is one of the reasons I'm trying to Que Botlane with more in norms. People need to see it.

Jinzo Torrance1 votes

Why Nashor Tooth?

Wasn't Rylais first if your support has no CC, and Gunblade if he has?

LadyRenly1 votes

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Why Nashor Tooth?

Wasn't Rylais first if your support has no CC, and Gunblade if he has? nashor is a decent cdr/atk speed item for him. You need some kind of attack speed, whether its nashor or triforce.

Ahristocats1 votes

i'm a morde player that managed to get used to play without Rylai I do buy it, but when i snowball i feel like just going glass canon items, like nashor

how do i play without Rylai? W bonus ms, artificial range with W+E+R procing Deathfire touch, and Q on cc'ed targets, that's enough most of the time

Jorencice1 votes

I still don't understand how morde adc works.

You would think draven or ashe would just 2 shot him as he struggles to get any farm while getting kited in circles.

Ahristocats1 votes

draven is a hard match up, deals too much damage indeed, has death dance, and his clone is bad because the clone doesn't have his Q morde needs someone like blitz to deal with him

ashe isn't a problem, her damage are underwhelming, and kiting is actually not that a big deal against morde, because he's semi-ranged, has bonus ms on W, and his support can help him to reach someone

Jorencice1 votes

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draven is a hard match up, deals too much damage indeed, has death dance, and his clone is bad because the clone doesn't have his Q morde needs someone like blitz to deal with him

ashe isn't a problem, her damage are underwhelming, and kiting is actually not that a big deal against morde, because he's semi-ranged, has bonus ms on W, and his support can help him to reach someone

But he's only semi ranged. Ashe also has a support to help her kite. So he should really never hit a q ever. And isn't that most of his damage?

Especially if it's a lulu or karma.

Shrug maybe it's one of those things that are different on paper and in practice things.

Ahristocats1 votes

being semi-ranged to me means that your AA are melees, but your spells are ranged morde can burst a squishy just with gunblade+R+E+W (on an ally that dashed like rakan)

Jorencice1 votes

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being semi-ranged to me means that your AA are melees, but your spells are ranged morde can burst a squishy just with gunblade+R+E+W (on an ally that dashed like rakan)

Really? Hmm did they buff or change him since the rework?

I used to play morde a lot pre rework. Loved his full AP assassins build. But I haven't touched new morde in more than 2 years.

And I seem to remember them neutering his burst damage (besides his Q). Was I simply wrong? Or have they changed him since?

Ahristocats1 votes

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And I seem to remember them neutering his burst damage (besides his Q). Was I simply wrong? Or have they changed him since?

first, they nerfed 3rd Q damage while buffing 1st Q damage to make him less binary (either manage to get 3rd Q=win ,or not=lose)

Second, they did indeed reduced his burst in favor of DPS, but the numbers are still high that he can still bust from RANGE

let me show you

https://youtu.be/_QDoE5pq1dg?t=218

KuroCaliber1 votes

If draven ghost kills a champion, do you get bonus gold?

Ahristocats1 votes

no you don't unfortunatly, mordekaiser's interactions with other champions are often bugged if draven gets a kill while being a ghost the animation of his passive doesn't even appear

but even if it would work, you wouldn't get gold except if you killed minions with the ghost which is rare

IcyPepper1 votes

ADC's Morde problem is that you build AP on him. If you want other things to go bot lane, you need to differentiate ADC from bot lane as opposed to the normal habit.

Sustained dps has to go somewhere on the team for tower and objective control.

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