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Possible Satan Shroom change

Noctius28·7/30/2015, 12:33:03 PM·1 votes·544 views

With the recent changes to Teemo I just wanted to share an Idea I had during lunch

So remember way back when there was an awesome potion that gave true vision for a limited time? That was an awesome item to counter teemo But they took it out To this day I still don't know why and it's not important The problem is taking out that gave Teemo the biggest indirect Buff ever Creating the Satan we know today

With these changes he is even more irritating, oh yeah his shroom last only a quarter of a game and not half... big woop, still longer than any ward and more spammable

I think there is a very easy solution to turn Satan into a less dickish irritating little yordle ok here it is:

LEAVE THE SHROOMS VISIBLE!

now hear me out on this of course this is a gigantic nerf... to noobs You see most pros as far as I have seen don't put the shrooms in the middle of a lane, they put them in strategic places: Corners, edges of bushes, etc...

This would create a more strategic play style for teemo while giving the enemy some counter play to the most hated ability in league

But to make it fair let's try some extra changes

Shrooms last 15 minutes They take 5 hit points to die (like a pink) They arm themselves twice as fast They give twice the current gold (10 instead of 5)

This would make the entire game more enjoyable for anyone who isn't there with the intention to make people miserable

So what do you think? Would this be a positive change? If not then why not? What would you propose?

6 Comments

Serevas7/30/2015, 12:39:07 PM1 votes

The reason it was taken out is because this came to be item 3364. The potion gave you 5 minutes of true sight, little much for 250g, then with the advent of trinkets, you could build true sight into that, and have it become a buff, additionally item 2043 exists as well, and are perfect for doing the same thing.

Furthermore, if a Teemo places their shrooms in the middle of the lane, the minions will just take them out. Placing shrooms not necessarily exclusively in bushes, but obscure locations that make it irritating is exactly the point of having the ability. To leave them visible makes it so the only ones that hit are inside bushes, and that's if the bush isn't warded at all.

They're Noxious TRAPS, meaning they shouldn't be easily visible, just like real traps, it's kind of what makes them traps.

DrCyanide7/30/2015, 1:06:13 PM1 votes

I don't think you thought this through. The best mushroom places aren't in bushes, but are in choke points that are open and free of minions. For example, the ramp going to the river from your blue buff, or the ramp going to Razorbeaks from river, or the gap between a destroyed tower and the edge of the map. These areas are in the open, but a good Teemo places them there because they know they'll be hit by a target.

If Teemo's mushrooms were to be visible, they'd likely be made more similar to Caitlynn or Nidalee traps, in that you can see them but you can't disarm them without detonating them (a limit would probably be added). They might even be made so that only champions can detonate them, to stick with the standard for visible traps. Their arm time would be faster too. You're creating a system that's probably worse to play against.

PS: 5 minutes is closer to 1/8th of a normal match time. It's only 1/4 if one team gives up or never stood a chance.