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The Tier List season 6.3 (my list)

PhantomGG··3 votes·2,075 views

Gonna use the Smite system Tier list

So for a healthy game ideally you want all champions to be in the A or A+ range, so in this list I will be as fair and honest as possible. Lets see the result

S++ (ungoddly broken, auto win if u chose it

Nothing this patch, but just a few patches ago Mundo could of easily been here

S+ (straight out broken, but still somewhat beatable)

A few people could of been in this section a few patches ago, graves, Mundo, Jax, Sorraka, malphite

S (super strong, could use some nerfs) DrMundo

A+ (Very strong, could use a nerf or two) Fiora Udyr (solo q) Alistar Elise Ezreal Janna Kalista (how the fuck do we nerf this champion? We have tried everything) Leblanc (subject to change) LeeSin (a good lee sin will solo carry your team these last few patches, besides rengar from 2 patches ago, I cant name any other jungler who isn't elise who can do that) Lissandra (in a meta where multi carry comps are what we see, this becomes such a important pick) Lucian Lulu (so much utility...) Nidalee Poppy Quinn TahmKench (purely and only related to solo que stats) Viktor XinZhao (riot the new buffs, what were you thinking) Zed (the new item..)

A-(really good, but fine as is) Ahri Bard Brand Braum Caitlyn Chogath Corki Diana Ekko Fizz Gangplank (subject to change) Garen Gragas Graves (if this was a patch ago, he would be so much higher lol, good job riot with proper nerfs) Jax (subject to change) Lux Malphite MasterYi (is actually a really good pick if given a proper comp to work with) MissFortune Morgana Nami Nautilus Orianna RekSai Renekton Rengar (subject to change, might put in B+) Shyvana Soraka Syndra Talon Tristana Trundle TwistedFate Vayne Zac

Hovering Olaf Gonna pause for a moment to talk about Olaf, Olaf is a champion where if you put him in the hands of someone compantant and turn him on, he is a solid A tier pick that will bring so much to your team. Someone who can chase down the adc and make hell, someone tanky who cant be CCD on but provides a AOE skill shot slow. But when behind this guy just gets shut down so hard, mainly for he needs gold and a lead to accomplish what he was designed to do. Olaf is a gold demanding champion who can't accomplish his job unless given resources, so because of this I simply can't place him in A. A behind olaf is a useless champion.

Ryze Terrible Win loss ratio but honestly not a bad champion, super useless when behind, but can solo carry your team once he hits his item spikes and level spikes. Hovering between B+ and A

B+(not that great, but viable maybe one buff?) Anivia Annie Azir Blitzcrank Cassiopeia Draven Evelynn Gnar Hecarim JarvanIV Jhin (subject to change) Jinx Kindred Maokai Riven Shen (subject to change) Sion Sivir Thresh (is just out shined so hard by so many supports right now, he was the king of supports in a time where no one was fancy as him, not new supports are just as fancy) Veigar MonkeyKing Zilean Irelia Vi

B (not that good but passes for casual play could use a few buffs) Aatrox Amumu Ashe Karma Kassadin Kennen (I just feel the nerfs to her damage were pretty harsh) KogMaw (subject to change, problem is their is not enough kogmaw players in both the casual and pro scene for me to give kogmaw a proper analysis, I would say he is in the B+ or A range even, but I simply don't have the data to back that up) Leona (problem is to many people do her job better, not that shes bad, just to many people do her job better) Malzahar Mordekaiser (for those who are wondering why I didn't place him lower, it is honestly personal biased, I played him two times this patch and had no problems) Nasus Nocturne Pantheon Sejuani (the nerfs on her, and the nerfs in how slows work hit sej hard, and has yet to fully recover) Shaco Skarner Twitch Varus Velkoz Vladimir Warwick Xerath Yasuo Sona

C+ (terrible, just barely passes for casual play really needs buffs) Darius Fiddlesticks Galio Illaoi Katarina (watch the salty katarina haters salt on me) Khazix (while he still has the ability to solo carry if fed, this will rarely happen) Nunu Rammus (just barely misses B) Swain Volibear Ziggs Zyra

C (terrible, needs desperate buffs) Akali Karthus Kayle Taric Teemo Tryndamere Urgot

D (has near nothing redeemable as a pick, needs a complete rework of buffs) Heimerdinger Rumble Singed Yorick

12 Comments

J E B A ł T E D2 votes

Cute Bronze post.

PhantomGG1 votes

will edit in full explanations for each pick later

Critmaster Garen1 votes

jinx will never fall below A with her kit.

and rengar got buffed pretty hard by duskblade.

PhantomGG1 votes

Rengar-Allready in a A placement, which is a perfect placement anyone wants to be in, anyone in A+ or higher is what I would consider "broken" and I would not call rengar broken at the moment untill I see data that proves me wrong.

Jinx-I feel in a meta where the early game junglers shine hard while at the same time haveing her early game severely nerfed, that jinx simply isn't in the A range at the moment. I use to be a jinx main and felt very hurt since the nerfs to her early game, while yes late game jinx is exactly the same, early game jinx is in pain.

Karma Deified1 votes

Lee Sin A+? Udyr A+? Sure they're good if they're actually good. But when I think of champs that become dead-weight in the wrong hands, Lee and Udyr are top of the list.

Come to think of it, they're both "that champ" that make people look like smurfs when done well but seem like someone's little brother is playing the account in [m]any other cases.

Edit - On another note, don't give high tier champs a few nerfs. Give low tier champs some QoL, buffs, mini-reworks, etc.

PhantomGG1 votes

For it is exactly as you say, a good lee sin and udyr this patch are legit terrifying, you shoulden't just a champion by the bad players but what they can do when fully unlocked

AlwaysByMySide1 votes

You think Volibear is terrible? Lol, really?

PhantomGG1 votes

compared to literally every other tank in the game, yes.

AlwaysByMySide1 votes

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compared to literally every other tank in the game, yes.

Good thing Volibear isn't really a tank and doesn't operate like one. He's a heavy fighting, if not a juggernaut.

Oh, and you think Kayle is bad? Really? Why is that?

PhantomGG1 votes

Even then a juggernaut is suppose to be a somewhat tanky person who does lots of damage, and I would defaintly not say he is better then a darius or a garen or a shyvana. If anything you should be glad im exposeing this. Riot reads the forums you know, for a whole month we were complaining akali was to weak, then boom akali suddenly got some buffs. So yeah sometimes a champion is weaker then riot realizes and it takes the forums to make riot realize that. So yeah bringing awareness to a champions weakness is a good thing, it's not a bad thing.

as for kayle, kayle is a tricky thing for me to talk about despite being a player who considers himself good with Kayle.

These were the pros I can list with kayle

+Super strong lane phase if left alone +Good late game scaleing +Hard to itemize against due to penetration passive +Good team fight with her AOE, her minor cc, and her ultimate +God tier split pusher, takes down turrets fast when allowed too while haveing good one v one, and even two v one abilities depending on the situation

Cons that make me consider her bad

-Super easy to gank, literally a free gank if she starts pushing..which is bad for that is all she does..push, its what makes her good -Super item reliant, she suffers through the ryze symptoms where it's I KNOW IM USELESS RIGHT NOW BUT JUST YOU WAIT TILL LATE GAME GUYS card. While late game is nice and all, we gotta survive till late game. But at leaste ryze has a passive and a ult steroid to make him relevant without items -Literally useless once behind -Her ult also near useless early game, late game this thing lasts for a good 2 seconds and is hella usefull. but early game this thing is weaker then a Jax or shen dodge. It has a super long cooldown and doesn't even block cc. You are safe only for a second, a single second. that is pretty ridiculous when comparing to one of jax's abilities which does the same exact thing except only for autos while having a much shorter cool down. Or hell even Fioras riptose is better then Kayles ult early game. While I will say yes, late game her ult is good, early game her ult is border line useless. -Very easy to all in pre 6. Despite popular belief that Kayle is a unstoppable lane bully, if you do the actual math, her early game damage is nothing to amazeing, it's her range that gives her the advantage in fights, but if you make a mistake of the opponent finds a way in, you will easily get out traded many times, meaning they are probabbly gonna all in you, and god forbid they got level six before you do.

So yeah that's my logic behind kayle.

Fanny Forecast1 votes

Irelia is easily still one of the best top laners. Zyra is easily one of the best supps right now, espec with either tank or damage (or both) oriented supps being the meta. Taric is REALLY good, espec vs the new AD assassin item. Kayle is REALLY good, dat ulti doe. Akali doesn't need buffs, she just got some and is honestly in a place where a good Akali shines and a meh Akali won't do too hot. Sona is one of the best supps ever. Sustain, Poke, Engage, AND a Movespeed buff. Also, her passive is beautiful if used right. If/when I get to higher ELOs, I'm gonna main her for the sole reason being her passive. Rammus for the same reason as Taric. KhaZix isn't the best but deserves higher than that. Vi? B Tier? What drugs are you on... Mundo is far from OP rn, he's actually p weak rn due to nerfs and meta shift. VelKoz is easily one of the best supps rn for taking out tanks, which are p popular right now. Malz counters assassins. cough Janna, while being in a tier she deserves, does NOT need nerfs. She's perfectly balanced, her strengths and weaknesses shine thru really brightly making her easy to pick up and play against. Annie isnt the BEST rn, but at the same time, shes good vs assassins (point and click stun, anyone?). Anivia is the best mid laner as of 6.2, with 6.3 shes still up there. Nidalee belongs lower. Her early game dominance doesnt justify being that high up. Syndra is too high as well. Volibear is amazing.

PhantomGG1 votes

Irellia was actually meant to be in B+ not B, that was a typo I did not notice, thanks for pointing that out. The reason why I have Irelia not in the A range is because I feel the top laners I do have in the A range or higher just outshine her by to much. She has a LOT of competition these past few patches and that is undeniable. Not to mention she falls off even harder then renekten late game. While I agree one of the best "top laners", I still do not feel she is amazeing enough to compete with the top tier top laners at the moment, and well, you gotta beat the best to be the best, and that is something she struggles to do at the moment.

Zyra The reason I feel zyra is in a bad spot right now is because since her snare and ult are so easy to dodge, well here is what you want from zyra. A burst mage who brings cc to your team, that is why you pick her. She has burst, and she has cc, however both her burst and her cc are very easy to avoid, the problem is her missle speed in both her snare and ult. If she can't land her cc or if someone can't land cc for her, she will not be able to burst down targets. That is simply how it is, if zyra was in a good a spot as you said she was we would be seeing more of her in both low elo, high elo and the pro players. But fact is we hardly see her at all, why? For shes not in a good spot right now, shes under powered in terms of speed.

Taric Taric brings very little, border line nothing to team fights, all you get from taric is a strong lane phase with a stun that can not be dodged. if the Taric counter pick does not work, then he was a waste of a pick, he is a all or nothing pick for the lane phase, and in a game where team fights is god tier valuable as of late, I do not value taric at all as a pick. While I will not call him useless, I will defaintly not even call him mediocore.

Kayle Maybe I was a little harsh on her, but I defaintly would not call her a A pick, where would you place her? Anything at A or higher is honestly far to much. B+?

Akali Akali buffs are honestly not enough at the moment, the reason I score her so low simply because out of all the assassins right now she is simply the worse. If she were on the same level of ekko or leblanc, sure I would put her in A, but she is not. Be honest, be straight up honest, would you say Akali is just as good as leblanc or Ahri? Answer is probabbly going to be no.

Sona? Sona is most defiantly not one of the best supports ever, I will admit that I was possibly abit harsh on her, and that maybe she can be moved to the B range, but come on, she most defiantly isn't "the best"

Ramnus My issue with Ramnus is he is pure counter pick reliant, just like Taric, and sometimes even when full AD comps are meta, people will still pick AP teams. So even in metas hes supposedly suppose to be good in won't even matter in the games where people don't play what is meta. And even when u do counter pick with him, his team fighting is simply mediocore as he gets kited easily. Honestly I feel the junglers I placed above him far out class him, which is why he is only C, but perhaps he deserves C+

Vi Perhaps B+ range, but no higher, she has far to many weaknesses to make her deserve A range at the moment, the main one being that she is honestly squishier then people believe her to be and is easy to blow up. Honestly B tier is a pretty decent score, surprised your angry at this one.

Mundo My bad for not checking patch notes, literally one patch ago he was at a 60 percent win rate, didn't expect it to suddenly drop to 50. I will move him to A.

VelKoz B was a generous score, no he is not one of the best supports for fighting against tank comps, and no tank comp's aren't that popular right now, its carry comps that are meta. Velkoz is a fine champion but he could still use a buff or two before becoming A tier meta, hes almost their but not yet.

Malz A hit or miss pick that I still have little clue in how to feel about, and while talking to him with a friend we both had two very fair and different complaints. Mine was Malzahars DPS on multiple target ability, and his was Malzahars huge lack of mobility

Janna A nerf or two does not mean gutt the champion, it could literally mean give a small little tiny pinch nerf, she is almost perfectly balanced but not quite perfect. That is what the A+ range is, a range of champions who are super strong, but not OP, but could maybe be altered a tiny bit, these champions constantly hover in and out from B+ range to A+ range because riot is figuring out how to perfectly balance them.

Annie Got a generous B+ buff, but sincever her range nerfs she went from a A+ pick to a B+ pick. The two harshest nerfs you can do to the champion more often then not will involve speed or range, and for annie it was her range that got hit, she is no longer the deny you all farm cause I poke you to death mid lane/support bully that she use to be. I feel you are simply remembering her as such, their was a time I once saw a Annie and thought "great lane phase is gonna be awfull". Those thoughts have never once accured since her nerfs. Hell most the time I win it since she was nerfed.

Aniva She was honestly properly nerfed, while I hate to use win loss ratios to rate champions, for they are honestly not always accurate to represent power. She went from a 60 percent win loss ratio from when she was op, to a 50. Now a 10 percent drop is a harsh number that is impossible to ignore. She is not a bad champion but she is no longer over powered as she was a few patches ago. Besides B+ is a good rateing allready.

Nidalee Nidalee was honestly a hover for me between A or A+, the reason i concluded A+ is for honestly she is one of the best junglers right now who whipes the floor with her lower tier competition when played to her fullest potential. The only people I find who can keap up with a good legit nidalee main are the people who are also in the A+ range. I feel you underate her for you haven't seen enough good nidalee mains.

Syndra Honestly Syndra belongs in the A range, she has good burst, and a good kit with moderate CC, if you chose to play her at a appropiate time and pull her off she can do wonders for your team and sometimes even solo carry. I feel this is a meta for her because she can honestly keep up with the majority of assassin mid laners. Maybe she could be downgraded to a B+ range but certainly no lower.

Volibear is not amazeing, hes ok, just ok. nothing more, nothing less.

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