I don't think Saded Devour will double proc Jax's W and R

FalconPawwwwnch··1 votes·1,387 views

I could be wrong because I don't have a PBE account, but I'll post my reasoning regardless

They don't behave like standard on hit affects, because they aren't; they are single target spells and always have been.

Afaik, there are big differences between autoattack modifiers or on hits in this game. There are standard on hit affects, single target spells, physical on hits that proc lifesteal, and even rare magic damage on hits that proc lifesteal (Nidalee's Q)

On hit effects in this game do not proc life-steal or spell-vamp. Something like Warwick's passive or irelia's W. Jax's W and R are classified as single target spells for all intents and purposes. Both of them proc spellvamp at a 100% value and get the full 35% slow from Rylai's. They behave exactly as Akali's mark of the assassin does.

To compare, something like Aatrox's 3rd hit does not proc spellvamp or rylai's slow, instead it behaves like a normal attack.

If someone with a PBE account could confirm/deny my suspicions with proof, however, that'd be awesome.

7 Comments

Bodkins Odds2 votes

It doesn't proc his W twice because his W explicitly only effects the next auto or Q, but it does proc his R passive in two hits instead of three. Already confirmed on that.

jDVL20eCYs1 votes

everyone with common sens know the difference between on attack and on hit. why m¨jax w cant double proc....

doublelift fg1 votes

it will for his R, not for his W

Icestar11861 votes

His R will go off more often. However, it is impossible to double-proc W.

Knight SoIaire 1 votes

jax's w empowers jax's next auto atack not next 2 auto atacks

Salidfingers1 votes

When asked how the item interacts with things like Sheen and Nasus Q, Meddler explained: "Quote: So, will champs with abilities that modify their next basic attack, like Poppy, Darius, Garen, Rengar, Nasus essentially have the damage from the ability doubled if it lands with a phantom proc? No, those abilities will all be unaffected, since the normal auto attack will consume the buff in question. This is basically two auto attacks back to back, where the second one has no base damage and therefore only applies on Hit effects. Things like Nasus Q, Sheen etc therefore apply to the first auto attack, get consumed, and aren't around for the second attack.

Meddler also reminded that Phantom Hit only works with BASIC ATTACKS so things like Ezreal's Q or Warwick's R - which are not basic attacks - would not proc it: The phantom attack on sated Devourer's a bit more specific than other on Hit abilities. It only applies on basic attacks, so things like Warwick ult, Ezreal Q, and GP Q that aren't basic attacks but do apply on hits won't trigger the phantom attack. They will still apply the normal Devourer magic damage on hit of course.

As for if this means that Blade of the Ruined King's on hit effect is doubled every other attack, he noted: "Quote: does that means that with every aa botrk will deal 16% current hp? Yes."

Meddler also noted that for charging abilities like Aatrox's W, Sated Devourer would essentially double the stacks gained on hit to proc the effect whenever Phantom Hit triggers: "Quote: My guess is that it will speed up how often he procs his W passive, I don't imagine the passive procing twice in rapid succession. That's correct. Aatrox will proc his W effect every second attack, instead of every third."

Irelia Bot1 votes

Empower will not double proc same goes for sheen items.

His ult passive however could become every other attack instead of every 3 attacks. Have not tried this out but in theory it could work given that vayne gets 2 rings from silver bolt every other attack.

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