"Camille is a high mobility, high burst champion with a strong utility ability and that is not ok"

Arcyyy·Apr 8, 2017·3 votes·994 views

But some champions similar to her are just allowed to be dominant for literally seasons right

14 Comments

OverpoweredSoapApr 8, 20174 votes

A good amount of people on these forums hate those champions too.

And Ahri gets a pass for some people because she's Ahri.

DryditchApr 8, 20173 votes

I never feel like something unfair has happened when I play against Ahri. Yasuo just outheals everything with retarded double crit chance, and Lee Sin's entire kit is just cancer to play against because he has no mana costs to gate him.

Raigeki TenseiApr 8, 20171 votes

Yasuo deals less dmg on crits due to the double crit chance he receives, and crits dont heal him. Lee sin i constantly gaited by his energy/energy costs, and requires a lot of skill to play effectively.

DryditchApr 8, 20172 votes

Lifesteal converts %damage dealt into healing.

Increased damage off crits, even if the actual crit bonus is reduced, leads to ridiculous lifesteal. When full build Yasuo is outhealing full build Mundo or Warwick (both of whose kits have healing built in), there's a problem.

Lee might take "skill," but it's not much skill. You can literally wardhop, ult, hit your point blank Q, take it, and get the kill on any squishy (equal in gold to you) at almost any point in the game before the player has time to react. I've been on both ends of that combo. It's not fun from either side. He's just flashy looking.

Ahri is squishy, has minimal healing off her passive which takes time to stack and is clearly communicated, dies to hard CC if it lands, and isn't going to just one shot you unless she's fed.

PermabannedGarenApr 8, 20171 votes

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Lifesteal converts %damage dealt into healing.

Increased damage off crits, even if the actual crit bonus is reduced, leads to ridiculous lifesteal. When full build Yasuo is outhealing full build Mundo or Warwick (both of whose kits have healing built in), there's a problem.

Yasuo spent thousands of gold for his healing. Dr. Mundo is intentionally hot garbage, and Warwick doesn't have a late game as good as Yasuo's, but he does have a better early and especially mid game. I also frankly doubt Yasuo can drain-tank Warwick.

Lee might take "skill," but it's not much skill. You can literally wardhop, ult, hit your point blank Q, take it, and get the kill on any squishy (equal in gold to you) at almost any point in the game before the player has time to react. I've been on both ends of that combo. It's not fun from either side. He's just flashy looking.

Lee Sin will get his butthole plastered my many or most ADCs late game in a 1v1 late game. Any squishy equal in gold to him? Please. Also, lol at being "unable to react" to Lee Sin's ward hop. It's not so fast a competent player can't react.

Also, why is a bronze five player sitting here and pretending he can play Lee Sin well? Maybe it's that easy against people in that elo, but Lee Sin is one of the highest skill cap champions in the game. Much more than, idk, Nami.

Ahri is squishy, has minimal healing off her passive which takes time to stack and is clearly communicated, dies to hard CC if it lands, and isn't going to just one shot you unless she's fed.

Ahri is also objectively much stronger than Yasuo right now.

DryditchApr 9, 20171 votes

OK, yes, you can react to the ward hop. The unavoidable burst is more of what I take issue with.

I also never said I was good. I said I've been on both sides of the Lee's RQQ combo, and that neither side is very fun or engaging.

EvilUnicornLordApr 8, 20177 votes

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And Ahri gets a pass for some people because she appeals to weaboos and has huge boobs.

Fixed it, yw.

OverpoweredSoapApr 8, 20173 votes

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Fixed it, yw.

That was what I was implying lol .

Yaśuo MainApr 8, 20172 votes

Camille is Diver

Yasuo is Skirmisher

Lee Sin is Fighter

Ahri is Mage

not really similar IMO, all have different kinds of mobility.

Lee Sin, has near unlimited mobility depending on whether he has wards or not and/or can use Q to travel away or to.

Yasuo requires no skill to dash In lane, but significant skill to dash through the JG.

Ahri, well... I'll leave up to everyone else..

All 4 have CC that are "strong".

Also, the only thing close to burst on this list is Ahri so??

Neither Lee Sin or Yasuo can just burst someone else they are half build (yasuo) and/or fed(yasuo and lee). However they can both get broken sustain with life steal.

Raigeki TenseiApr 8, 20171 votes

This is one of the more accurate posts i've seen.[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

Hong Kong RevoltApr 8, 20171 votes

Lee is also a diver

Yaśuo MainApr 8, 20171 votes

Lee is not considered a Diver, by that logic because of his Q, Yi is also a diver because he has a similar engage. And Yi is not a diver.

Master Yi: Primary role - Slayer Secondary role - Fighter

Lee Sin: Primary role - Fighter Secondary role - Slayer

PermabannedGarenApr 8, 20171 votes

[{quoted}](name=Yaśuo Main,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EOf37EeT,comment-id=000100010000,timestamp=2017-04-08T22:56:54.596+0000)

Lee is not considered a Diver

https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/developer-corner/3A5uuBw7-champion-subclass-list

Yes he is.

Diver is a subclass of fighter.

Yaśuo MainApr 8, 20171 votes

pfff.

I knew that.

~~I swear, I seriously don't do enough research and it backfires all the time~~