Am I the only that feel like a mere 4 seconds is not long enough considering the item needs to be both off of cooldown and a decent number of stacks to make use of the active?
Pierce The Veal2 votesIt’s active gives you 100-200 AP and 30-60% movement speed for 4 seconds.
4 seconds is enough for any burst mage/assassin to get their combos off. And 100-200 (or 140-280 with deathcap) AP is INSANE. Especially if you get it first or second item, you’ll have 300 AP from one item early game. That’s nuts.
xxxMadLionxxx1 votesIt’s active gives you 100-200 AP and 30-60% movement speed for 4 seconds.
4 seconds is enough for any burst mage/assassin to get their combos off. And 100-200 (or 140-280 with deathcap) AP is INSANE. Especially if you get it first or second item, you’ll have 300 AP from one item early game. That’s nuts.
Have you actually played with the item? Most times you won't get 100 stacks, more like 20-30 stacks because its not easy to stack. On top of that, you have a 60 cooldown. I'm not saying the items doesn't have a lot of potential at 100 stacks, I'm saying the active is heavily gated for only 4 seconds of use.
Pierce The Veal1 votes60 seconds is short
It’s up for every all in fight. It will be up in every teamfight. It has a shorter cooldown than most ults. And, if you take ingenious hunter (I think it was named as such?) it can drop to a 36 second cooldown. It’s a VERY strong ability. And if anything, the ability for it to gain stacks from spellcasts makes up for the time when you aren’t using it when it’s off cooldown. In the case of someone like Casseiopeia or Karthus, you should easily reach close to 100 stacks by the time it’s off cooldown, and in the case of Champions like Kassadin or other assassins, it accomplishes its goal by giving you mobility and AP before you burst someone.
Do note that this item gives the most possible AP from a slot for 4 second. Giving 200-300 AP (or 280-420 with deathcap), making it the most slot efficient item in the game for those 4 seconds. And even when the active isn’t up t still gives 100 AP and 10% movespeed.
meowwow71 voteswait 100-200 ap from the active? it says only up to that amount and that's with 100 stacks but it is quite useful on karthus
Pierce The Veal1 votesWaiiiiiit a second. They changed it from the PBE.
meowwow71 votesso wait it would have gaven a base of 100ap without stacks? [sg-ahri-1]
Pierce The Veal1 votesYeah activating it would give 100 AP even without stacks. With stacks it could reach 200. It appears they nerfed it on release.
TKM Axe1 votesif u play veigar is 4 seconds the only thing u need ;)