So if you max E then W on Cass top you do so much damage in 2 seconds its retarded

Kingsgrave··2 votes·731 views

Stashu overbuffed this weird rework

I hit my second benchmark at 17 minutes

I got archangel in that time too

{quoted} This whole time I was thinking that Q max is best along with RoA instead of seraphs. Whoops.

Just rush Arch then Liandry and Rylai. Honestly your E and W give so much damage and slow together that its ridiculous. Her Q mostly seems useless.

[{quoted}](name=Kowe The Ewok,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EMJ1TzEI,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2014-12-11T02:19:12.127+0000) The base damage gained on W is horrible even if the cooldown gets lowered. I can't really see the benefit here (other than a very minors slow gain per level)

W is easier to hit in general and the slow increase gives you more room to land your shitty q and spam Es

Honestly q is only useful for the ms increase. You get to amp W damage by 40% with E spam anyway turning it into a much better skill in general

W also poisons for 7 seconds essentially allowing you the ability to clear waves and mana regen a lot more often

The cd decrease means a lot because you basically hit 2nd benchmark of passive within 20 minutes

Q max makes generating stacks and spamming E a hell of a lot harder because you have to land something with a .4 second delay and obvious cast animation

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xJLx MCHammer4 votes

No math Yup it's a fact guys

Kingsgrave1 votes

[{quoted}](name=xJLx MCHammer,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EMJ1TzEI,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2014-12-11T02:54:26.450+0000) No math Yup it's a fact guys

Just try it out in a game I'm not going to bother to do the math for you

Diostukos2 votes

This whole time I was thinking that Q max is best along with RoA instead of seraphs. Whoops.

Kingsgrave1 votes

{quoted} This whole time I was thinking that Q max is best along with RoA instead of seraphs. Whoops.

Just rush Arch then Liandry and Rylai. Honestly your E and W give so much damage and slow together that its ridiculous. Her Q mostly seems useless.

Diostukos2 votes

{quoted} Just rush Arch then Liandry and Rylai. Honestly your E and W give so much damage and slow together that its ridiculous. Her Q mostly seems useless.

I like Rylais on her since it synergizes really well with her E; but Liandry? Idk; late game you'll usually want to burst people down quickly so I don't really see the use for something meant to be DoT, unless you're sieging?

Kingsgrave1 votes

{quoted} I like Rylais on her since it synergizes really well with her E; but Liandry? Idk; late game you'll usually want to burst people down quickly so I don't really see the use for something meant to be DoT, unless you're sieging?

Liandries adds even more damage to your poison so it takes even less time to kill them. It's also health, ap and magic pen. All 3 of those stats are super important for Cass.

LongFur Fox2 votes

Liandrys gives you health which you get from rylais or roa anyway and overall things like a dcap, zhonya or whatever you build instead of liandries makes you kill anyone even faster. Even on old cassi liandry was only an item you would build for fun and with the rework liandries becomes even more useless. The dot it gives simply does not have enough time to work since cassi does so much damage that she melts tanks anyway.

TheFrozenIsles2 votes

Who where you fighting against?

Kingsgrave1 votes

{quoted} Who where you fighting against?

Vladimir Top. I had a game before this where I maxed Q then E and beat a Gragas but her damage felt off, so I tried this game and I just destroyed without effort.

Kowe The Ewok2 votes

The base damage gained on W is horrible even if the cooldown gets lowered. I can't really see the benefit here (other than a very minors slow gain per level)

Kingsgrave1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Kowe The Ewok,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EMJ1TzEI,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2014-12-11T02:19:12.127+0000) The base damage gained on W is horrible even if the cooldown gets lowered. I can't really see the benefit here (other than a very minors slow gain per level)

W is easier to hit in general and the slow increase gives you more room to land your shitty q and spam Es

Honestly q is only useful for the ms increase. You get to amp W damage by 40% with E spam anyway turning it into a much better skill in general

W also poisons for 7 seconds essentially allowing you the ability to clear waves and mana regen a lot more often

The cd decrease means a lot because you basically hit 2nd benchmark of passive within 20 minutes

Q max makes generating stacks and spamming E a hell of a lot harder because you have to land something with a .4 second delay and obvious cast animation

Kowe The Ewok1 votes

Ok, I understand your reasoning.

However, since I used to main Cassio hitting that skillshot isn't an issue. But yea, it's easier for people who arent't used to her.

Kingsgrave1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Kowe The Ewok,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EMJ1TzEI,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2014-12-11T16:15:10.654+0000) Ok, I understand your reasoning.

However, since I used to main Cassio hitting that skillshot isn't an issue. But yea, it's easier for people who arent't used to her.

Im a top laner main so I usually go for the most reliable and fast way to kill someone, which to me seemed to be maxing W second after E. Vlad had MS quints and masteries going and hitting him with Q seemed nearly impossible.

The Queen Viper1 votes

cool story bro...

SouL1ess1 votes

Oh no!

Stashu made it crystal clear that he wants Cass's kit to revolve around E. Why are you not maxing what is the most overloaded thing on her kit first? Her other abilities are crap and just there so you can use your third skill like someone who actually has 3 basic abilities.

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