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Support Galio is insanely broken in high lvl of plays please just REVERT HIM ALREADY

D357R0Y3R··8 votes·4,205 views

Support galio is the second most played support in competitive, it's so broken it's not even funny. Wanna know why? Because of his gamebreaking aoe taunt that does not have a single counterplay except "don't be in RANGE".

You can't interupt his W, you can't outrun the expension unless you have 500 ms, and he gets damage reduction + procs aftershock.

You said you were going to delete items that had too much work and still didn't manage to be fixed.

Meanwhile it's been 2 years that you constantly try something on Galio and the outcome is always him being either garbage or gamebreaking. No matter what you did, which playstyle you gave to him, which balance change you did high elo players and competent players ALWAYS abused his kit (especially W and R).

The rework which has been done 2 years and 1 month ago exactly is terrible Akali got fixed with like 2 or 3 changes, and Galio is a massive failure of a rework.

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y0r1ck3 votes

Can't an alistar just knock him off the adc? Or darius/singed/volibear can all keep him off ur adc.

Pick Darius draven bot, see if he ever tries to go in. I have actually done this successfully, have you tried countering him with low CD displacements?

Also u.gg has him at 47-48% winrate at most, at master+.

D357R0Y3R1 votes

https://gol.gg/champion/list/season-S9/split-ALL/tournament-ALL/patch-9.6./role-SUPPORT/league-ALL/

Also u.gg has him at 47-48% winrate at most, at master+.

not at all https://lolalytics.com/ranked/worldwide/master/plus/grid/

it states 52% win rate and 12% pick rate

y0r1ck3 votes

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https://gol.gg/champion/list/season-S9/split-ALL/tournament-ALL/patch-9.6./role-SUPPORT/league-ALL/

not at all https://lolalytics.com/ranked/worldwide/master/plus/grid/

it states 52% win rate and 12% pick rate

https://m.u.gg/lol/champions/galio/build/

Did you look at u.gg?

y0r1ck3 votes

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https://gol.gg/champion/list/season-S9/split-ALL/tournament-ALL/patch-9.6./role-SUPPORT/league-ALL/

not at all https://lolalytics.com/ranked/worldwide/master/plus/grid/

it states 52% win rate and 12% pick rate

Lmao I clicked your link, and it still doesn't put him at 52% even. It was 51.5 when I checked. Not only that, lolalytics has WW at 60%, and taric at 57%. Lolalytics does not seem reliable at all, and if you're basing your argument on it it's safe to dismiss. Especially since you're looking at master+ games only, which is too small a sample size.

Ayzev1 votes

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Lolalytics does not seem reliable at all

At least for ban rate and pick rate it seems to be reliable. But the thing with win rate is that, when filtering out low elos, the way it works is that it checks whether there is anyone at all above the filtered elo in a match, not whether everyone in that match is above it. So it includes games where someone who is above the filter stomps someone who isn't, and that's how win rate gets inflated.

Infernape1 votes

Lolalytics as been said to inflate win rates. IIRC according to Riot U.gg is the site that is most similar to their own data.

RebeccaUCuber1 votes

Even with that winrate he's gold tier and like At the half of The ladder. Challenger tier champs are far worse than him.

RebeccaUCuber2 votes

He's Good in pro cos He Can rely on Very good teamates, without then he's nothing. His base armor is laughable compared To other tank supports. After w effect He pops up really fast without items. His ult has To be perfectly landed, And has a super long cd in Early. If he doesn't build ap he does 0 dmg, he cant trade with poke and ranged champs. If he hasn't flash His engage e-w it's risky and less rewarding as it should be. Galio is gutted To the ground cos of pro play. Give him some love At least, since without a team he's totally trash tier :/

Ayzev2 votes

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Galio is gutted To the ground cos of pro play. Give him some love At least, since without a team he's totally trash tier :/

If he's a menace with a team and trash without, buffing him is not the answer. Reverting or re-reworking is.

RebeccaUCuber2 votes

it was implied a very high elo team with a lot of comunication...every team fight champion is stronger in a premade team... I mean, are you really supporting this? He wont be reverted. He's Not a problem in any elo like other really broken champs. They must be adjusted first, not a pick that only pro teams Can utilize well...

Ayzev1 votes

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every team fight champion is stronger in a premade team

But it should never be as extreme as with Galio. There's plenty other teamfight-focused champions that aren't gutter trash in solo queue despite being good in pro.

He wont be reverted.

As I said, another rework works too.

He's Not a problem in any elo like other really broken champs. They must be adjusted first, not a pick that only pro teams Can utilize well...

You sound as if I'm asking for Galio to be nerfed. I am not. I ask for him to be changed in a way that makes him balancable. As he is now, he's only ever broken or garbage, never in-between.

RebeccaUCuber1 votes

But it should never be as extreme as with Galio. There's plenty other teamfight-focused champions that aren't gutter trash in solo queue despite being good in pro.

Galio extreme...I've heard anything x Oh, so there's no other champs gutted Cos if pro play coordination? Azir Aatrox Ornn Sejuani

You sound as if I'm asking for Galio to be nerfed. I am not. I ask for him to be changed in a way that makes him balancable. As he is now, he's only ever broken or garbage, never in-between

yeah you ask for nothing...and Galio's problem has always been it's damage.

Ayzev1 votes

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Galio extreme...I've heard anything x

Relative to most other champions, yes, extreme indeed.

Oh, so there's no other champs gutted Cos if pro play coordination? Azir Aatrox Ornn Sejuani

By no means. Why you think I implied that has me puzzled. These champions are just as much of an issue as Galio.

and Galio's problem has always been it's damage.

If it was that simple, he would be easily fixed by some number changes.

VoraciousX2 votes

If he was a problem, reworking him wouldn't be the answer. Although I do miss his old Q with the wind trail going straight forward and granting move speed. If he is a problem and the reason you're stating IS the problem, they could simply nerf his AOE range on his W. I don't think he can usually get in range without wasting his E though.

Bisaknosp2 votes

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Akali got fixed with like 2 or 3 changes,

lmao not even funny, downvoted

Vlada Cut2 votes

An anty mage. Where 2 out of 4 or 3 outbof 4 champions are AD ohysical damage based. Sure. Laughs in Jhin and Pyke

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