Any plans on nerfing Tristana?

SwapShadows·Oct 25, 2015·3 votes·797 views

She has everything an ADC wants, she excels in every single category an ADC want's to be good at.

The worst part about her kit is that she's basically lucian and jinx combined, huge auto attack damage and huge ability casting damage with more mobility and self peel than both of them.

And please, spare me the "but vayne is better cause my solo Q and stealth" because in reality Vayne is nowhere near as good,reliant or contested as Tristana. The only ADC that competes with trist at the moment is kalista and even kalista lacks in certain ADC departments.

14 Comments

ErockandrollOct 25, 20153 votes

I hate this Attitude. Cause this attitude ensures that ADC's can only do one thing. (damage, and turret siege)

No one tries playing the Utility ADC. No one appreciates the Duelist ADC. (with high kiting potential.) And Kalista, extreme power in Neutral objective control makes her more than formidable.

SwapShadowsOct 25, 20151 votes

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I hate this Attitude. Cause this attitude ensures that ADC's can only do one thing. (damage, and turret siege)

No one tries playing the Utility ADC. No one appreciates the Duelist ADC. (with high kiting potential.) And Kalista, extreme power in Neutral objective control makes her more than formidable.

That's not how balancing works.

if there is a champion that does everything in a role then there is no need to make anymore champions for that role because they will all automatically be weaker. Also forgot to mention the fact that Tristana gets to be good at every ADC category while not even being hard to play.

thepay3Oct 25, 20152 votes

agreed that she is 2 storng atm

SwapShadowsOct 25, 20151 votes

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agreed that she is 2 storng atm

great minds think alike 8^)

AD EzrealOct 25, 20152 votes

I'm not sure if you're talking about the competitive level only, but looking at Soloqueue games in specific, she seems to be one of the worst ADCs win rate wise. I'm not sure where you're pulling your data from, but it might be worthwhile to have a look at this: http://champion.gg/champion/Tristana

Note that her win rate does not go up significantly even after players have played 125+ games with her (in other words, she isn't a champion that . These are average win rates of course, so maybe there are a select few players who have a strategy that isn't well known, but on average, she isn't doing particularly well. If this data suggests anything, it's that she could use buffs rather than nerfs.

SwapShadowsOct 25, 20151 votes

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I'm not sure if you're talking about the competitive level only, but looking at Soloqueue games in specific, she seems to be one of the worst ADCs win rate wise. I'm not sure where you're pulling your data from, but it might be worthwhile to have a look at this: http://champion.gg/champion/Tristana

Note that her win rate does not go up significantly even after players have played 125+ games with her (in other words, she isn't a champion that . These are average win rates of course, so maybe there are a select few players who have a strategy that isn't well known, but on average, she isn't doing particularly well. If this data suggests anything, it's that she could use buffs rather than nerfs.

When will people realize that winrates rarely ever indicate anything? some of the most broken champions that have gotten mega nerfed didn't even have a 50%+ winrate.

Common sense and good game knowledge tells you that trist is the top tier ADC right now and its even shown by how highly contested she is in competitive.

AD EzrealOct 26, 20151 votes

Riot has stated that the number 1 indication of a champion's power is how well they can take an enemy nexus. That means how well they can win, and that directly translates to win rate.

The reason some champions who don't do exceptionally well in soloqueue do well in competitive is because they thrive on communication, or happen to be strong picks with or against other competitive meta champions.

Any champion that has gotten multiple nerfs with a ~50% win rate had a much higher win rate with +125 games played. Azir, for example, had a 58% win rate with players who had actually mastered the character.

EnvironmentalistOct 25, 20151 votes

Instead of complaining about her, why don't you take advantage and play her?

jcwolvesOct 25, 20151 votes

She's strong but not broken. Tris is made to be a beast, and a fairly easy to play beast, but there are other champions out there. I don't think she needs a nerf just yet. In truth, Vayne is a very powerful champion right now with a high pick/ban, however i think the area of ADCs is not a priority for Riot at the current time.

I played as orianna against a fairly decent tris the other day and had no issues. There are still plenty of relevant counters for her.

SwapShadowsOct 25, 20151 votes

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She's strong but not broken. Tris is made to be a beast, and a fairly easy to play beast, but there are other champions out there. I don't think she needs a nerf just yet. In truth, Vayne is a very powerful champion right now with a high pick/ban, however i think the area of ADCs is not a priority for Riot at the current time.

I played as orianna against a fairly decent tris the other day and had no issues. There are still plenty of relevant counters for her.

Broken would imply her kit functions in an unhealthy way that prevents proper balancing, something like a warwick or poppy.

Right now trist is just overloaded because she has everything an ADC wants and her early game is strong on top of that.

jcwolvesOct 25, 20151 votes

If she was to be "nerfed" then, why would she need to be, and what would YOU have done to her? You have to keep her relevant to gameplay, but want to change her. How?

RogueWillOct 25, 20151 votes

Her damage output is really low early game thou (unless you let her hit all 4 hits on her E). Jinx will completely out damage her at most point of the game same with vayne and around 70% of the adc roster. She pays for her safety with that low damage output.

SwapShadowsOct 25, 20151 votes

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Her damage output is really low early game thou (unless you let her hit all 4 hits on her E). Jinx will completely out damage her at most point of the game same with vayne and around 70% of the adc roster. She pays for her safety with that low damage output.

low damage? she has a free steroid and a bomb that automatically forces most ADC's to stop trading with her because of it's huge damage.

Her early game is nowhere close to weak.

AgilsanOct 25, 20151 votes

Sure if you fight her 1v1 when you play adc you're going to get hurt, but a tank, mage, or an assassin like nocturne can take care of her pretty easily. Just take your time and look for a counter, she is strong yes, but just like every single other champion she can be stopped.