Fix Duskblade now!

MonkeyMadness··5 votes·987 views

This is ridiculous. Riot tweaked this item to better synergize with assassins, and it does a very good job in my opinion. The true damage on hit makes the item function much more consistently than how it used to (with the % missing hp burst). However, it is STILL being abused by marksmen. The whole point of these itemization changes was to stop ADCs from using assassin items for the unintended synergies (ie attack speed buff on youmuu's giving a huge %AD buff to jhin). And while these itemization changes did stop marksmen from building youmuu's, I still see jhin building duskblade, and now I'm seeing vayne build it, too. This is so unhealthy for the game, especially on vayne, as her shiv/rapidfire cannon + tumble + ult bonus dmg + duskblade proc + ie crit is basically a one shot on squishy targets, and because she can no longer be revealed during stealth, it's also pretty low risk.

Here is my incredibly simple suggestion: duskblade passive only works for melee attackers. Done. So simple. This makes it a great pick up on assassins, but useless on the ranged champs that are currently abusing the fuck out of it.

30 Comments

MatthewRT24 votes

Agreed adc's shouldn't be using assasin items

ZephyrDrake4 votes

OMFG HOW DARE SOMEONE BUILDS OUTSIDE OF THEIR LITTLE BOX!

Big Lincoln2 votes

ofmgmgggg fuck these selfish assassin mains they don't want their items nerfed because ADCs are broken with them

fucckkkk not like ADCs got items nerfed for other champs before right? item 3053 item 3156 item 3153

ZephyrDrake3 votes

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ofmgmgggg fuck these selfish assassin mains they don't want their items nerfed because ADCs are broken with them

fucckkkk not like ADCs got items nerfed for other champs before right? item 3053 item 3156 item 3153

if you think Maw was nerfed you are an idiot, and sterak's main nerf was that it'd shield wouldn't stack with Maw's shield and that was something that even if a melee champion was abusing it would have gotten the exact same treatment since both shields together are actually insane together and i am pretty certain that BotRK was nerfed because of the jungle item and not because of ADCs but nice try

Big Lincoln3 votes

sterak lost 100 hp because graves and quinn were abusing it

now it's markedly less valuable on juggs than maw is currently

Dracocrash1 votes

maw was nerfed during the duration of season 6, so was steraks. Both were nerfed because adc's were stacking them as defensive item.

Don't go around calling other people idiots please, it just shows your lack of debating skills and your superiority complex.

ZephyrDrake2 votes

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maw was nerfed during the duration of season 6, so was steraks. Both were nerfed because adc's were stacking them as defensive item.

Don't go around calling other people idiots please, it just shows your lack of debating skills and your superiority complex.

you are an idiot! Maw was still incredibly relevant even after the so called "nerfs" the item wouldn't keep it's ability to stack with sterak's since it made ANYONE who stacked them together a pain to deal with due to the double shields. It made Mages incredibly ineffective against ANYONE who stacked them together. It was going to get removed whether or not ADCs where using it. Sorry you don't have your broken shield stacking for the melees that are in so dire need of attention and are "unable" to do anything! OH NOES! plox rito make the items melee only so we can have our broken items back to being broken again!

The Magyk3 votes

"melee only" would work very well for it.

OctoberIV3 votes

Riot is too pussy to make it melee only for some stupid ass reason even though they said they would if it was abused by marksman like almost a year ago.

Sir Fuzzi2 votes

Yyyyyyeah, melee only or bust, but they probably won't do it. Melee only would be fine on Frozen and Black Cleaver too, in my opinion. They're items that belong on melees, with aspects that remedy the woes of playing a melee champion. Or should be, anyway-- it's okay if items are meant to help a certain class or two only, and not viable on certain classes or champions.

I think they want to embolden types like Graves who just shelf-pick the best of any worlds from any class. They seem to be breaking away from "X class entails Y kit/build patterns and gameplay options," moving up to a situation where we have new Graves who fits too many niches. I get that he's short range but still.

khorney1 votes

dude stop whining about things, and so what if vayne gets it it makes sense for her since the lehtality is good on her and becuase she can take advantage of duskblade because you can only use it if you are not spotted...... and jhin cant build attack speed and has a max of what 5 shots then he reloads.......

MonkeyMadness5 votes

jhin cant build attack speed and has a max of what 5 shots then he reloads.......

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max of what 5 shots then he reloads.......

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5 shots

http://i.imgur.com/wnIaRyJ.gif?noredirect

khorney1 votes

and yet your still complaining about stupid stuff....... ghost blade no longer gives attack speed so i do not know why your complaining about certain things

MonkeyMadness1 votes

Ok, I was kidding with that triggered comment because it fit so well, but now I can see that you are not actually reading my post. I specifically referenced this change to youmuu's and that it successfully stopped ADCs from abusing this item. If you are going to oppose my opinions in my own forum post, please actually read the opinion with which you are in opposition.

khorney1 votes

no i read it but again duskblade is fine and it is not meant for adcs i mean if you want to get by all means by have fun never activating the effect and seeing you need to more like are supposed to stack lethality on it who cares who gets it adcs really have no benfit from it

MonkeyMadness2 votes

Is this even English? I literally cannot understand this at all. Try using punctuation. The only part I think I get is this:

duskblade is fine and it is not meant for adcs

Which is the point of my argument. It's not meant for adcs, yet they build it and abuse it.

khorney1 votes

seeing you cant read. adcs literally cannot abuse duskblade there is 0 reason for them to build it unless there in it for the lethality. because good luck gettign the proc off it. the only on ei can see building it would be maybe vayne and quinn other then that umm youll never proc it so who cares if they build it since the rework

MonkeyMadness2 votes

Did you learn how to write? Your grammar is cringe-worthy even by internet standards. Also,

good luck gettign the proc off

This is literally 10x easier to do with a ranged champ so wtf are you even saying?

khorney1 votes

umm not really but okay.you want abuse look at renagr

MonkeyMadness1 votes

Rengar is just overpowered. Learn what the word "abuse" means in this context.

khorney1 votes

he is not op people think he is weak after his rework because his q isnt a aa anymore nor grants any attack speed nor can he walk around with stacks anymore becuase he loses them.

MonkeyMadness1 votes

I have heard literally no one say this.

khorney1 votes

Read the forums that's all you see is rework is weak and sucks

MonkeyMadness1 votes

Ok, but honestly this has nothing to do with my post, which is to discuss the interactions of Duskblade on ranged champs.

khorney1 votes

Not every range champ can use it . I mean you have Quinn twitch and Vayne who can use it effectively due to the conditions to use the passive on it

Calabok1 votes

not an issue.

Phoenix Kotori 1 votes

tbh I think the item is overpowered in general, item 3147 simply completely outshines item 3142, there is basically no reason to build youmu before or w/o it cause item 3147 is so strong.

Also Vayne & Jhin are both 2nd type assassins.

MonkeyMadness2 votes

They are marksmen and therefore enjoy all the benefits of being ranged and shouldn't be allowed to use items that are balanced for melee champs.

Dominick Destine1 votes

Make Duskblade great again !

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