Before downvoting to oblivion, seriously : Illaoi is a way worse Darius. Her damage damage is worse, heals less except if she hits 3 tentacles ( this is assuming Darius hits only one person with the blade). Her ult is clunky ( she can be moved while ulting....), and the radius is small enough to be only good against very bad enemies. She is only a lane bully, assuming she is not playing against anything ranged because if she is, she is useless.
Old Man Teeto1 votesWhen they make playing against Illaoi at all not frustrating to fight, then she can be playable strong.
We have enough champions that feel more like chores to fight than actual opponents.
DropFill2 votesWhen they make playing against Illaoi at all not frustrating to fight, then she can be playable strong.
We have enough champions that feel more like chores to fight than actual opponents.
Sorry, but what you find "frustrating" against illaoi? Her E? is fairly dodgeable.
Old Man Teeto1 votesHer passive. It's like fighting acne the entire laning phase that she barely has to interact with herself.
I picked my champion to play that champion, not to imitate a zit remover.
DropFill3 votesHer passive. It's like fighting acne the entire laning phase that she barely has to interact with herself.
I picked my champion to play that champion, not to imitate a zit remover.
The tentacles don't beat you except if she W's or if you are the vessel. Not even hard to remove them lol
DrNova1 votesThe tentacles don't beat you except if she W's or if you are the vessel. Not even hard to remove them lol
The point is the constant anoyyance of dodging them when they spawn and going over to kill them. Its just a nuisance.
And she is strong if she can nail her abilities. She doesn't need buffs just cause her kit is easy to dodge.
DropFill2 votesThe point is the constant anoyyance of dodging them when they spawn and going over to kill them. Its just a nuisance.
And she is strong if she can nail her abilities. She doesn't need buffs just cause her kit is easy to dodge.
She needs buffs because her kit is useless without her passive that she actually has 0 control on it and can be easily destroyed. ALL her abilities have a delay, not a fucking single one is instant. Even her W takes a good amount of time for her to actually complete the basic attack frame.
"Constant annoyance of dodging"??? You prefer a kit like riven that you can't dodge shit? Or zed that even though his Q is a skillshot, a good zed will never miss cuz of his WEQ combo
Crossette1 votespassive that she actually has 0 control on it
buffs
fiora
ptsd
Except Fiora's kit is fine. Your argument makes little sense. Also, at least you can walk away from Riven after her abilities without fear of having tentacles to stop you from doing anything every 10 seconds.
DropFill1 votesExcept Fiora's kit is fine. Your argument makes little sense. Also, at least you can walk away from Riven after her abilities without fear of having tentacles to stop you from doing anything every 10 seconds.
If you walk away alive from riven after her whole combo, after 4 sec she will run again in your direction. You can't fucking escape a riven
Crossette1 votesRiven isn't going to make you dodge something every 10 seconds no matter where you are on the map.
Usually. :^)
DropFill1 votesExcept Fiora's kit is fine. Your argument makes little sense. Also, at least you can walk away from Riven after her abilities without fear of having tentacles to stop you from doing anything every 10 seconds.
I never asked for a fiora buff bro wtf. Tentacles don't stop you from doing anything every 10 seconds because you can just dodge them lol. Only one tentacle is easy af to dodge
Crossette1 votesle attempt at recalling
FOILED AGAIN
le attempt three seconds later (not instant, which is what most people would do so idk)
foiled. again.
DrNova1 votesShe needs buffs because her kit is useless without her passive that she actually has 0 control on it and can be easily destroyed. ALL her abilities have a delay, not a fucking single one is instant. Even her W takes a good amount of time for her to actually complete the basic attack frame.
"Constant annoyance of dodging"??? You prefer a kit like riven that you can't dodge shit? Or zed that even though his Q is a skillshot, a good zed will never miss cuz of his WEQ combo
I didn't say I prefer anyone, don't make up words out of my mouth to bolster your argument.
And her kit design is flawed which is why she may feel weak. Buffs won't change that. They would have to mini rework to change how her kit functions. Though if her skills were instant, she would be godly oppressive in lane.
She will probably be stuck like that for a long time, as riot doesn't really touch kits for years.
Billy VoHagen1 votesShe's strong in the way fiddlesticks is strong, and how katarina is strong.
Fiddle: if you stand in her ult. But at least fiddle can get rylais to make it difficult for you to leave.
Kat: if you don't CC her.
DropFill1 votes[{quoted}](name=Billy VoHagen,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EFlUAi39,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2016-02-10T00:53:55.283+0000)
She's strong in the way fiddlesticks is strong, and how katarina is strong.
Fiddle: if you stand in her ult. But at least fiddle can get rylais to make it difficult for you to leave.
Kat: if you don't CC her.
Both their ultimate damage application does not rely on how many people they hit at the start of the ult, or another ability CD ( her W ). Also, her ult can be dodged in the area he is, different from katarina or fiddle.
Also, both of them have a form of engage. Illaoi has none
Billy VoHagen1 votesI'm not saying in how their ults work. But, like fiddle, if you just stand in her ult and let it happen, you will take a lot of damage. And she can also just be easily CC'd and stopped, because to get a good ult off, she'll need to be in the middle of your team.
SnackieCakes1 votesIllaoi needs to be redesigned. She's just all over poor. If you have any concept of backing away from enemies when they're at their strongest, her ult, tentacles, and tentacle abilities mean nothing.
Her E really frustrates people, but isn't very good and doesn't usually feel very satisfying to use (unlike trollpoll, for instance).
She can be overbearing in lane, has some good options when getting ganked, and is otherwise pretty garbage the rest of the game.
DropFill1 votesIllaoi needs to be redesigned. She's just all over poor. If you have any concept of backing away from enemies when they're at their strongest, her ult, tentacles, and tentacle abilities mean nothing.
Her E really frustrates people, but isn't very good and doesn't usually feel very satisfying to use (unlike trollpoll, for instance).
She can be overbearing in lane, has some good options when getting ganked, and is otherwise pretty garbage the rest of the game.
Exactly. Any competent person can know when to fight illaoi, and when to get out. She has no cc except her E slow, that is pathetic and only applies if you get out of the huge range it has, or if you become the vessel, both of them giving you a good distance of illaio's zone of control. She is good against noobs, nothing more