"lethality isnt OP", "build armor against it".. umm you're missing the point..

SwiftKitten88··2 votes·1,456 views

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You want to know why people don't bother buying armor vs lethality? BECAUSE ITS NOT WORTH IT!!! the point of removing damage from out build in order to build armor.. so you DON'T GET 1 SHOT. if we put the armor in and we STILL get one shot.. then what was the point in building it?.

i have 1900 hp.... i dont CARE if u 1 shot me with 2000 or if if you 1 shot me with 2800 or if you one shout me with 20000000 damage.. its still a one shot. and if building armor isnt goign to STOP that "one shot" and i lose offense buy building that armor... why on earth would i build armor?

you are completely missing the point of WHY lethality is OP.

it isn't JUST the values of lethality.. its the ITEMS they get it on

item 3147 item 3142 item 3814

ALL of these items not ONLY give lethality the have a HUGE amount of AD and they can be used with pretty much ANY ad champ and they are are

item 3142 is 97.13% gold efficient without the active effect and 124.37% gold efficient while using it. Out of combat, item 3142 is 105.4% gold efficient without the active effect and 132.64% gold efficient while using it.

In combat, item 3814 is 98.95% gold efficient without its active effect. Out of combat,item 3814 is 106.69% gold efficient without its active effect.

item 3147 is 80.38% gold efficient without its passive effects. Out of combat, item 3147 is 87.77% gold efficient without its passive effects.

and while duskblade isnt as gold efficient as the other two.. when u combine it.. and its passive which isn't calculated it becomes VERY strong

at the same time these champs can also get item 3156 item 3139 to counter ap

ALL OF WHICH ARE OFFENSIVE

what do AP get for offensive vs armor? item 3157 is 92.73% gold efficient without its active.

and item 3050.

the point is when u build lethality you counter pretty much all the armor in the game stuff while sacrificing NOTHING. you get damage your get effects.. and you basicalyl get lethality stacked on as a free added bonus.

and in order to COUNTER this "free added bonus" you force anyone who dones't want to get 1 shot at LEAST 1 damage item.

you want to know why people dont bother buying armor vs lethality? BECAUSE ITS NOT WORTH IT!!!

the point of removing damage from out build in order to build armor.. so it DON'T GET 1 SHOT.

if we put the armor in and we STILL get one shot.. then what was the point in building it?.

i have 1900 hp.... i dont CARE if u 1 shot me with 2000 or if if you 1 shot me with 2800 or if you one shout me with 20000000 damage.. its still a one shot. and if builing armor isnt goign to STOP that "one shot".. and i lose offense buy building that armor... why on earth would i build armor?

6 Comments

dunder kill4 votes

item 3165 is 112% gold efficient FROM STATS ALONE

Where is your Morello rant?

NiuLogic3 votes

Tried to build health ?

SwiftKitten881 votes

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Tried to build health ?

so your answer is "because armor is worthless i should build HP instead"

how does that fix the issue with armor being worthless?

item 3116 is great except its AP and HP is now too low to be worth it as a final item item 3027 take too long to be effective and if i rushed it i would completely miss my biggest powerspike item 3152 i already have a gap closer i don't need an item efficiency gated by an effect i don't want item 3030 i don't WANT to be in melee range i don't need an item efficiency gated by an effect i don't want item 3151 i don't have any form of CC to effectively use the passive with. i don't need an item efficiency gated by an effect i don't want

Hige2 votes

yes, armor simply makes your effective health higher, 100 armor means an increase of 100% hp, meaning that you are twice as hard to kill, which can be accomplished by buying flat HP as well, a rod of ages will give you more than twice your health and will account for more than 100 armor.

Lethality can't penetrate armor below 0 and lethality values are only a fraction of what's reflected making the items less cost effective when purchased early, if an item has 10 lethality and you buy it at lvl 3, that's only 6 armor pen

MaeDoSan1 votes

So you have items but you dont want to buy them , you know you can use item 3030 to slow down assassins when they jump you. Maybe you can talk about how gold efficient these items with hp are to solidify your point ?

Dynikus2 votes

You really love "gold efficiency" but didn't bother to actually do any math on the difference in damage between building armor and not building armor. People don't build armor against lethality because they're dumb and don't know how to alter their builds to play against what the enemy is building. The armor from item 3157 alone is almost equal to the armor pen from level 18 item 3142 item 3814 item 3147 combined, and it will be equal next patch.

Orianna at level 18 has the lowest base armor at 68 outside of thresh and mini gnar. With item 3157, she has 113. With item 3157, you have 39% damage reduction against item 3142 item 3814 item 3147 without item 3157, you have about 15% damage reduction against item 3142 item 3814 item 3147

Without any health items, Orianna has 1860 health at level 18. Let's just for the sake of argument say that the enemy does 2800 damage before reduction, as that's was what you put in your post. With item 3157, they deal 1708 damage. Congrats, you lived. without item 3157, they deal 2380 damage. Dang, you died.

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