You wanna talk balance?

Onotori·6/13/2018, 11:41:27 PM·4 votes·2,218 views

Then actually fucking balance the game.

Akali Annie Brand Camille Cassiopeia Chogath Diana DrMundo Ezreal Draven Ekko Fiddlesticks Fiora Fizz Graves Hecarim Irelia JarvanIV Jax Kaisa Karma Katarina Kayle Kayn Khazix Kled Leblanc LeeSin Lucian Lux Malzahar MasterYi Pantheon Quinn Rengar Ryze Shyvana Singed Tryndamere Udyr Vayne Warwick MonkeyKing Xerath Yasuo XinZhao Zed Zyra

These champs are all in need of nerfs or reworks. They either go against literally everything you preach about, or were massively overbuffed and then ignored. They're "anti-fun" which you like to throw around, they have no significant counterplay, and a lot of them are statchecks (which you also say you hate).

You wanna talk balance? Then actually balance the game. If you can't nerf the champs to make them fair, then gut them until you rework them.

Though we all know you don't give a fuck about balance, since balance is stagnant and not lucrative. You've even admitted on several occasions you keep certain champs broken because they make money, or you balance around the spotlight, and so on. So I don't know why anyone even bothers talking about balance.

29 Comments

RiotBazerka6/13/2018, 11:48:14 PM15 votes

FWIW I don't disagree with you. Some of those champs have balance issues. However, more useful feedback would be a breakdown of how you think each of these champs causes imbalance in regards to the entire champ lineup & game meta (power spikes, play patters, play counter play issues, etc). If you provide insightful input that gives us a heads start on finding a solution :). Good first step though!

chipndip16/13/2018, 11:42:40 PM6 votes

You don't know what you're talking about, so who's gonna bother reasoning with you when the foundation of your understanding of the topic is so flawed?

Eedat6/14/2018, 2:12:20 AM2 votes

Its hysterical that you defended launch Camille who was way more overpowered but now that you dont play her anymore you have to bitch and whine about her. Also hilarious how Zoe isnt on there and you're probably going to come up with some horseshit excuse that applies to 80% of the champs you listed but magically Zoe is fine because you play her xD

You are the laughing stock of this board

Akali is SO HOT6/14/2018, 12:08:38 AM2 votes

This is one of the worst threads in history of threads

five oh tree 6/14/2018, 1:00:15 AM2 votes

Ah yes, a scrub's tears, the saltiest thing in the world. Please continue posting like this and crying, it fills my heart with joy.

Meep Man6/14/2018, 12:18:12 AM1 votes

"You see these champions?!" names a solid third of the champion pool or more "They be needing some nerfs!"

Can you explain a little more?

Dope Solo6/14/2018, 2:53:08 AM1 votes

Overall, Onotori is right. There are too many OP champs, and quite a few mismatches once you get in lane. There needs to be somewhat more of a reasonable expectation that more champs can have a decent laning phase against any randomly selected opponent. Not all matches are terrible against those champs, depending on who you picked, but especially now as the game is inordinately imbalanced, the number of bad matchups far exceeds the 'fair' ones. If I were Riot, I would change this the way they usually 'balance' (can i even call it that right now??), by changing the mana cost and cooldowns during their first 6-8 levels.

Yeah its frustrating, picking a champ that gets chumped because you're just plain outranged. Or, you picked a mana-gated champ into a resourceless opponent. (Gee, I fucking wonder riot? durrrrrr)

A couple of things: You aren't always there to win the lane, just hold it and do your own thing to scale up. Some champions have a window of effectiveness, they might be good early, or good late.

Its a "team game", so sometimes you pick a champ that complements the team. I love and prefer playing Kass (Tier 3 riot by the way), but if we don't have anyone else on the team that has CC, then I feel forced to go Veigar, Syndra (Like, garbage Tier probably, thanks again riot)...something with a strong stun, because it will fare better after laning phase is over and the team fights begin.

It also wouldn't hurt to learn how to play Riot's favorite buttboy champs, Yasuo Zed MasterYi etc. You know, the ones that get constant buffs without cause or need. Try looking at OP.gg to see what is "Tier" at the moment. Then try playing just that one until you get about 400k mastery points on them. You'll see that Zoe, is one of those at the top (FU riot).