Here's a dumb question

RookPusher··15 votes·1,224 views

If everyone is 4-manning bot lane, does this make Anivia more relevant since she can seal off the tri when we see them in the bush?

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Supreme Senpai692 votes

Then they just wait 4 seconds and continue their dive

RookPusher5 votes

With respect, you don't strike me as a solutions-guy.

Supreme Senpai691 votes

I know you're insulting me, but for some reason I couldn't help but smile. Mostly because it's true

RookPusher2 votes

I really wasn't, but you're like my father (Saying this as a 34 yo, no teen angst involved) who is always like "This is a disaster!"

And I'm like, "well why don't we just move this over there and then we can walk around?"

"Oh yeah...I guess that works"

I'm certain you have strengths I don't, I'm just saying you're not good thinking outside the botlane jungler dive.

Supreme Senpai693 votes

Tbh if you're gonna go that route, instead of Anivia, try Veigar. His is like.. four walls. So it prevents them from coming to you, but it also prevents them from leaving in case your jungler is nearby and you want to turn. Also Veigar is just a much much better support pick than Anivia imo

Nocturne ults? Put an E up and have you and your ADC cuddle inside of it. Zac is jumping? Put an E up. Lee Sin landed his first Q because your ADC is a potato? Put that E up.

ShippoTail2 votes

"... because your ADC is a potato?" Lmao! Thank you for a good laugh!

Also I like the idea behind support veigar, siege machine!

LegitBacon661 votes

ADC anivia?

RookPusher1 votes

Ha, no. As support.

LegitBacon664 votes

That actually might be viable. Anivia Ziggs bot confirmed

RookPusher5 votes

And her passive means they need to stay under the tower for a lot longer, presumably in her Ult.

LegitBacon664 votes

Egg

RookPusher1 votes

...yes.

TFBaam2 votes

no when you enter egg your ult deactivates.

RookPusher1 votes

Ah, well shit

SchmidttyGames11 votes

Actually...

Vayne+Anivia Because being Condemned into an artificial wall is exactly what you need today.

50000000000000001 votes

Vaynivia

AgeOfTheMage2 votes

Bard +Vayne they will learn to fear walls

Kirius Dark1 votes

If you take Ziggs then you're the one who needs to be diving and pushing, not defending. Anivia be better for defending and preventing the 4 man roam

S0kaX1 votes

Another dumb question: If everyone is 4-manning bot lane, does this make RekSai more relevant since burrow?

50000000000000001 votes

How does burrow make her more relevant? She can see 4-man coming only if she's nearby.

gileskd1 votes

reksai support incoming allies can see the tremors (I believe) in order to see the tremors she has to be burrowed what skill can she use when burrowed Prey seeker!(I think that's what it is called, too lazy too look up confirmation) what happens if an enemy steps on you? they get knocked up item 3303 RekSai or theres item 3302

this is one of my crazy ideas, feel free to leave feedback if you want

50000000000000001 votes

Tremors are visible to all alies, and while burrowed she can only use prey seeker, unburrow, tunnel, and ult.

I've considered it, but the detection radius is too small to detect any incoming ganks from lane, or you need to position yourself awkwardly towards the tribush or river and away from your ADC. Besides, sightstone pretty much outclasses her passive for avoiding ganks. You also have very weak poke and very weak CC as far as support roster goes.

That said, I think she has potential as a top laner. She can Q the wave and sustain a ton, and her E makes for a quick short trade. She has a built in TP, so she can either take ignite/exhaust for more kill pressure, or take TP to double down on map pressure. The ult passive also gives you attack speed, which can help you take down towers faster and be a good splitpusher. You can also push safely by putting tunnels in the lane bush. Based on a couple tries, her main weakness is when she's against ranged opponents, as she can't reliably gapclose (her tunnel animation is pretty long) or trade with her E. Burrowed Q can help with securing CS pretty well, though.

RexSaur1 votes

Her wall has a long cd and most junglers can just hop over it.

Basically it does nothing to stop a lvl 6 lee dive while she and her adc are both lvl4 .

RookPusher1 votes

Does it stop a Lee dive when everyone's level 6?

You seem to want nothing to solve the problem. I don't know what that's about, but the wall can go anywhere, and jumps have cooldowns, so you've eliminated an escape. If the jungler is Lee or Kha, then throw a wall in the lane. Let them come in alone awhile delaying the others.

Sometimes you can deny a gank by dragging it out. That bard ult can break a 4 man press quickly if you stasis two of them.

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