Sona "buff"... hear me out

only zhule··3 votes·2,220 views

Can Sona not use up her powercord attack when hitting targets that have set damage taken per attack, Zyra 's plants being the perfect example. I think it's a very unique thing with Zyra, but maybe it also translates to other "minion" creating champions like Heimerdinger and Yorick .

Change should probably be made to any champion / item that gives bonus damage, thus preventing people from using up their empowered ability hitting a target that has set damage taking values.

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destroyer227192 votes

Rito, make Sona great again.

chipndip11 votes

Quality of life change that won't happen.

I don't think she should keep her empowered AA when hitting a Dinger turret (those don't have set health like other traps), and because those and other traps are coded similar, they won't be able to make that change for, say, a Nidalee trap or a Jhin trap, where she should be able to keep her empowered AA.

only zhule1 votes

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Quality of life change that won't happen.

I don't think she should keep her empowered AA when hitting a Dinger turret (those don't have set health like other traps), and because those and other traps are coded similar, they won't be able to make that change for, say, a Nidalee trap or a Jhin trap, where she should be able to keep her empowered AA.

yeah looked into it. the only champions the change effects are Zyra and Illaoi . Since those are the only two champions that currently create "adds" with set damage taking values. Not really sure what you are talking about with regards to traps and how they are coded similar to Heimerdinger 's turrets

chipndip11 votes

It's the same way that a shit ton of game elements are coded as minions.

If Sona wastes her passive on all these add on targets, like Malz voidlings, Dinger turrets, Zyra plants, Illaoi tentacles, and Jhin/Nid traps, you can assume they're just coded similarly enough that that's what happens. They aren't coded like wards because Sona can hit those without losing coming out of combat or losing her empowered AA. It's just how the game's set up under the hood. Could they try to change it? Probs, but they shouldn't, anyway. These things are combative elements of these champions. You shouldn't be able to disarm a Dinger turret while being considered out of combat, or while being able to Powerchord it to death without using it. Same for voidlings, and same for other types of added on enemies.

Besides, Sona is one of the highest win rate supports in the game rn. Why do you do nothing but complain for buffs? If you're gonna hit a ranked goal, do it before they nerf her, because it's gonna happen after Worlds most likely. She doesn't need buffs. She's probably getting nerfed.

only zhule1 votes

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It's the same way that a shit ton of game elements are coded as minions.

If Sona wastes her passive on all these add on targets, like Malz voidlings, Dinger turrets, Zyra plants, Illaoi tentacles, and Jhin/Nid traps, you can assume they're just coded similarly enough that that's what happens. They aren't coded like wards because Sona can hit those without losing coming out of combat or losing her empowered AA. It's just how the game's set up under the hood. Could they try to change it? Probs, but they shouldn't, anyway. These things are combative elements of these champions. You shouldn't be able to disarm a Dinger turret while being considered out of combat, or while being able to Powerchord it to death without using it. Same for voidlings, and same for other types of added on enemies.

Besides, Sona is one of the highest win rate supports in the game rn. Why do you do nothing but complain for buffs? If you're gonna hit a ranked goal, do it before they nerf her, because it's gonna happen after Worlds most likely. She doesn't need buffs. She's probably getting nerfed.

It's not really a buff to Sona, unless this issue is unique to sona in which case it is... but it's a "buff" that is really more of a bug fix.

The original post is a little off since i couldn't honestly remember at that moment how Dinger's turrets or Yorick's ghosts had their hp set up. You should totally use up your empowered attack on a target that the bonus damage matters (turrets, voidlings, ghosts, etc...) , you should NOT use up an empowered attack against a target that takes set damage amounts (wards, Zyra plants, Illaoi tentacles, etc...) even if they are considered "combative elements of the champion". In all honesty i'm not even 100% that you use up an empowered attack against Illaoi tentacles, much less inactive tentacles. And i don't have anyone who is willing to burn an hour or three testing EVERY champion (and item?) with an empowered attack against those two champions.

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