This patch is stupid.

Moody P·Aug 28, 2018·17 votes·6,101 views

Fiora 49.6% w/r 6.5% play rate gets her E buffed by an extra 20% crit damage at rank 1. "Because, you know, duelist."

Irelia 49.7% with 12% pick gets her Q minion damage reverted when it made her broken in mid LUL. 1350 skin in the same patch. Hmm.

Yorick 53.6% with 3.8% gets ghoul damage trashed specifically because low ELO players and soloQ in general don't know how to play around graves and ghouls.

Jhin not addressed, nor Alistar, nor Graves, or Jax, Ahri, Sion, none of the other champs sitting at the exact 53% win ~4% pick rate that Yorick has, but Yorick is bullying Silver so he had to go. LOL.

This patch is a joke.

stats lifted from lolalytics

39 Comments

JaspersAug 28, 20184 votes

I just read through it. Duskblade got a nerf, less damage on its bonus damage. Good.

Wait, increase in lethality? So while it'll do less late it ignores more armour but same damage early so it'll do more early when it's a more of an issue snowballing ad assassins even more?

JefftiffyAug 28, 20181 votes

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I just read through it. Duskblade got a nerf, less damage on its bonus damage. Good.

Wait, increase in lethality? So while it'll do less late it ignores more armour but same damage early so it'll do more early when it's a more of an issue snowballing ad assassins even more?

It is a net nerf. Early game you only get like 1 more lethality which doesn't make up for like 10-20 damage on the AA. Plus it also got the synergy between item 3095 item 3147 nerfed. Stormrazor now lost 20% of its damage. So its is overall a pretty big nerf which also effects Jhin .

JaspersAug 28, 20181 votes

Doesn't seem like it. I want a straight nerf to the item. No 'compensation'. Just less damage. Less lethality.

Honestly, I'm tired of J4 one shotting people in ARAM with those 2 items.... But they won't nerf him.

Rathar DashingAug 28, 20181 votes

It's not meant to be a straight nerf, but a push towards more elongated damage instead of a single attack finishing you off. I'm sure the extra 2-3 armor pen will be noticeable after a Zed or a Talon lands all of his abilities.

Stormrazor also got made much harder to poach by non-crit users, along with getting -5 AD so it does even less damage upfront.

JefftiffyAug 28, 20181 votes

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Doesn't seem like it. I want a straight nerf to the item. No 'compensation'. Just less damage. Less lethality.

Honestly, I'm tired of J4 one shotting people in ARAM with those 2 items.... But they won't nerf him.

1 lethality isn't that big of a deal. It's not even a 1% damage buff. They basically are trying to make the item do less overall, but still have a point in the late game for Assassins who actually hit their kit.

Sexy Jack RabbitAug 29, 20181 votes

'in ARAM' yes because the core of game balance is perfectly displayed in the magical land of the Howling Abyss.

RekSai CoffeeCoAug 29, 20181 votes

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It is a net nerf. Early game you only get like 1 more lethality which doesn't make up for like 10-20 damage on the AA. Plus it also got the synergy between nerfed. Stormrazor now lost 20% of its damage. So its is overall a pretty big nerf which also effects .

With this it also nerfed MonkeyKing so treat it as another double nerf for him (the as won't do anything).

KlydeFrogAug 29, 20184 votes

Stop with your useless points of things you dont know

boricCentaur1Aug 28, 20182 votes

Why bring up champions getting nerfed because of low elo if your going to bring champions that are only good in low elo that you say should be nerfed but I do agree with you this patch is bad.

Moody PAug 28, 20181 votes

none of these champs are "only" good in low elo.

boricCentaur1Aug 28, 20181 votes

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none of these champs are "only" good in low elo.

Umm jhin,ahri,jax,sion they are only doing good in low elo, if you look at there win rate and play rate in high elo none of them are op there.

Moody PAug 28, 20181 votes

define high elo. diamond+ sion nearly 55% winrate 7% pick. jhin 53% with 30% pick. jax 53% 17%, ahri winrate actually goes up if you exclude plat and puts her at 55%

what is 'low elo' to you exactly

boricCentaur1Aug 29, 20181 votes

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define high elo. diamond+ sion nearly 55% winrate 7% pick. jhin 53% with 30% pick. jax 53% 17%, ahri winrate actually goes up if you exclude plat and puts her at 55%

what is 'low elo' to you exactly

Diamond+ I think is high elo, you are right about sion I that did not check he's stats since I never see him played and no one talks about him so my bad, But what is your point on the rest they seem fine I mean yea jhin is high stat wise but when you look at challenger and master adcs yes thats like very small but they play more tris and alot of Kai'Sa.

Moody PAug 29, 20181 votes

they're S+ tier and are currently crowding out other champions due to their own strength

Dat KatAug 28, 20182 votes

Why does ahri need to be addressed again?

Moody PAug 28, 20185 votes

54.3% 14% pick in plat+

outperforming both Garen and Yorick in win and play% who are both getting nerfed this patch

Dat KatAug 28, 20183 votes

I still don't get your issue with ahri.

Moody PAug 28, 20186 votes

she's overtuned just as much as garen and yorick

Dat KatAug 28, 20185 votes

But you're comparing her to champions from a completely different tier, class, and skill level.

HotarµAug 28, 20185 votes

54.3% win rate (way above average) 14% pick rate (insanely high in comparison to other champions)

_ How is there not an issue to be had with any champion like that?_

Frosted TipsAug 28, 20183 votes

I could say the same thing for Janna for about 3 years where she was practically untouched. Janna and Ahri are safe champions they win the same way. Their are players that are good at them and make you look like a fool, but for the most part they don't die much and do their job safely. That is gonna win you games. Is she overtuned probably, but she is also unsatisfying to play and honestly needs a minor gameplay update.

Douglas FunnieAug 29, 20181 votes

"Practically untouched." Lmao...

Did you not see Riot nerf Janna 5+ times, and also did a hackjob attempt at changing her playstyle, which led them to hot fix her 3 times within 3 days?

Frosted TipsAug 29, 20181 votes

I said 3 years which was prior to that and slight nerfs barely phased her during that 3 year duration.

DKM BismarckAug 29, 20181 votes

Ahri doesn't even lose counter matchups right now, why do you think she is okay? The champion is way too overbearing in soloq because she can get lane priority way too easily, also the buff to her E made it completely impossible to miss Q after E from level 1 E onward unless the enemy has merc treads. She has fantastic pick potential, is way too safe, does too much damage and now you can't even abuse her pre six because she isn't even weak then anymore. I can see why you'd wanna nerf her, the E buff masked her weaknesses too well.

SEKAIAug 29, 20181 votes

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But you're comparing her to champions from a completely different tier, class, and skill level.

Oh yes, "muh champ is so 'high skill' so they are allowed to be blatantly statistically OP".

PowerSlave993Aug 29, 20181 votes

Strong Q damage, W is insane and that Charm duration + it makes enemy champ get 20% more damage -.-

Free ult escape, don't you think it's a bit OVERTUNED? It would be OK if she hasn't been making such damage.

KlydeFrogAug 29, 20182 votes

Lol again why does she need addressed

Vlada CutAug 29, 20181 votes

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54.3% 14% pick in plat+

outperforming both Garen and Yorick in win and play% who are both getting nerfed this patch

Have you seen Ahri 3 shotting Gosu when he played Garen tho? That was funny.

JefftiffyAug 28, 20181 votes

Also the Irelia buff is actually not as bad as you think. She got her ranges cut pretty bad at the same time as that got nerfed. Her stun is much harder to use now making her harder to play in general and her Q range which is basically her engage range is shorter.

Death by GlamourAug 28, 20181 votes

Fiora 49.6% w/r 6.5% play rate gets her E buffed by an extra 20% crit damage at rank 1. "Because, you know, duelist."

Irelia 49.7% with 12% pick gets her Q minion damage reverted when it made her broken in mid LUL. 1350 skin in the same patch. Hmm.

Have they said why they are buffing these two??

Rathar DashingAug 28, 20181 votes

They sort of addressed Jhin, and Graves with the changes to Stromrazor.

SharukenAug 28, 20181 votes

Buffing the weak is better than nerfing the strong

Rathar DashingAug 29, 20183 votes

No, that's how you end up with powercreep in a game.

BIFFAug 29, 20181 votes

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This patch is a joke.

stats lifted from lolalytics

I just want to say that even though i totally disagree with your shit post rant. I upvoted this because you still cited your source.

JackMcSnipeyzAug 29, 20181 votes

Let me guess, you play yorick?

Moody PAug 29, 20181 votes

yorick is one of my least favorite juggernauts to play. I prefer Volibear and Illaoi. Doesn't mean these nerfs were justified

JackMcSnipeyzAug 29, 20181 votes

53%+ winrate is pushing it into OP catagory, if any assassin or carry would reach those numbers he would get blasted with nerf requestes daily.

The buffs are VERY iffy tho, i agree, none of them should have recieved buffs at all.

Moody PAug 29, 20181 votes

go up on lolalytics, sort by winrate and look at the # of champs sitting on similar or better stats. yorick didn't even have 4% play rate, he wasn't that OP.

Weiner the PoohAug 29, 20181 votes

The Fiora “buff” is extremely non noticeable, helps her a little bit mid game, no difference past level 13. Fiora takes a long time to come online, and this is supposed to help her a little mid game, and it’s just that, a little, almost non noticeable bit. It’s a placebo buff. The crit dmg isn’t even noticeable until it’s got 4 ranks in it. He’ll even if they made it full crit damage at rank 1 it wouldn’t even make a difference. E’s main power comes from the attack speed and auto reset, not the crit.