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For example: The Jax that is focusing the enemy Dr.Mundo in a teamfight instead of the enemy carries.
I've asked people "Why are you doing that? Wouldn't make for sense to attack the guy that dies more quickly and does the most damage?" but that normally causes them to flame and go crazy
LegendaryLemur6 votesGod, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, The courage to change the things I can, And the wisdom to know the difference.
zane yalgir1 votesGod, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, The courage to change the things I can, And the wisdom to know the difference.
i would up vote then i remember down syndrome is the phrase that best describes players like jax in the ops post.
i dont have to accept you you dont have to accept me. yo DO sure as hell have to work togather. you know the same way it goes in real life.
LordGeovanni1 votesthere is nothing you can do that is just people
Huebone1 votesJust tell them once that they'd benefit more from attacking the "guy that dies more quickly and does the most damage" and if they shrug you off or choose not to, be humble in defeat, that's about all you can do to be honest, I have yet to see reporting actually make a difference, and you can't report someone from doing something you wouldn't personally do.
LifeCyclesTWA1 votesIts horrible. The people here are sensitive as well, I've been reported numerous times by said people. Here I am, trying to give them good advice and help improve them as a player, and they get butthurt about it and report me. I wish there was a training program EVERYONE that played the game was required to go through, like a tutorial.
Examples below;
"Hey everyone! This is Riot! See this enemy Graves? That is an ADC. The job of the anti-carry is to kill/chase the ADC away from the fight, in this situation Graves, so your ADC can destroy their team before he destroys yours."
"See that ally Alistar? He is going to do his best to not only CC the enemy ADC, but also peel any enemies that come close to your ADC. He is what is referred to as a TANK. The goal of the tank is NOT to get kills, but to PREVENT kills while his ADC who he is PROTECTING is doing all the killing."
"See that Talon/Zed/LeBlanc/Katarina? There are champions that thrive in the late game, but are weak early game, this includes anti-carries like Jax and Master Yi, but most champions that scale this way are referred to as ADCs. Once they farm up some items, they will carry your team at game's end. Assassin's are the opposite. They tend to have A LOT of early game power and burst damage, this leads to them destroying unsuspecting players that do not respect their capabilities. It is wise to build defensively against these champions in most situations and play passively! Because you are playing passively, you are less likely to get killed or ganked by the enemy jungler, but in turn you may end up losing a lot of CS! This is made up for by building defensively, which will also help survive much of the Assassin's burst, thus preventing he/she from snowballing. Defensive items are less expensive AND more cost efficient than Offensive items! Because the enemy Assassin won't be able to kill you he will look to gank ally lanes! Take advantage of this time to push to the enemy turret and counter-gank, and make sure your bushes are warded sufficiently!"
"Having trouble with the new jungle? Here is a tip! Buff camps have a respawn timer of 5 minutes, Dragon 6, and Baron 7! Use this to your advantage! Pay attention to where the enemy jungler starts and use this to your advantage. Most junglers take either the Frog or the Gronks first then proceed to clear the buff on that side. After the first blue buff kill, all the rest are typically given to the APC, some champions (such as Anivia) are very-reliant on blue buff. Because of this, you can potentially cripple the enemy team by stealing their blue buff which will typically spawn around the 7:15 marker if they started on blue buff."
Akeydel2 votesYou're level 17. There is no way you can
"give them good advice and help improve them as a player"
when you dont have very much experience yourself.
The problem with creating a tutorial system like that is that it 100% enforces the meta, which actually bends all the time in competitive play, and cant really be followed before you buy runes for jungling.
Plus, if someone is playing as a mana-reliant jungler, or against someone with an unusual clear path (
), then the tutorial actually gives them bad advice. Better to have a blank slate than a head full of false knowledge.
LifeCyclesTWA1 votesDon't judge a book by its cover. I've been playing since February 2010 and played the original DotA years beforehand, and beta-tested DotA2. I remember when ADCs going mid was the meta here. I was around right before Pantheon and Gragas were released. Also, all that advice I gave? I don't care what the meta is, squishy champions (champions with lose base armor/mr stats and tend to not build tanky and have a lot of damage built into their kit) that are designed to put out damage should be prioritized first. Its like any game in this genre, in most cases you kill the little monsters first before you take down the big one, otherwise the little ones will take you down before you even put a dent in the big one. As I'm sure you know.
I quit after changes I didn't agree with were made to this game in S4, and since have been changed back. I lost access to my main account and now am playing this one. (this new jungle reminds me of Season 1 all over again! :])
36949613_DEL1 votesDEM you played gam even before she was created. umad
LifeCyclesTWA1 votesGame was released late 2009, actually. I didn't like it at first because it looked cartoony (like WoW) but gave it a chance after watching the Pantheon spotlight. Been into it since.
36949613_DEL1 votesOU , i think that official info is that game is "announced" to be released in Europe at May 2010 , so because i live in Europe there is no way i can play it before May 2010 (at least).
36949613_DEL1 votesPS. Even in that time wow had good graphics , and wow dont have cartoony graphics doo.Wow now have astonishing graphics.
Akeydel1 votesNow I'm intrigued: how have you not made it to level 30 with more than 5 years under your belt?
LifeCyclesTWA1 votesNo, I've lost access to my main account (boomstick32) because I forgot the password and email I used for it after S4, and my second account which was the same situation
36949613_DEL1 votesI play this game since 2012 for me Ranked is not hell , NORMAL BLIND PICK is.
Now back to the point , find 4 other members that you know , that they know , to play the game , simple?
PS. For example i stoped to play this game for 2 years from 2012-2014 just to find 4 players that know to play , we play now we rocks , no problems of any kind.
Once again , in high competetive games like this is , you must be a team , not solo tryhard.
MićaĆomlaDJ1 votesHe was actaully doing the right thing and you have the bronze mentality of focusing the enemy carrys Here is the video to explaing why he was doing the right thing
And here is some advie: stop focusing on what your teammates are doing and just look at yourself. You have to do your job and you shouldn't worry whether or not everybody else is doing theirs.
LifeCyclesTWA1 votesLet me get this straight, you watched a video about a pro who knows what they are doing tell you what to do, and now you think you are a pro that knows what you are doing now? What you just did is the equivalent of someone calling themselves a doctor because they can google your symptons.
If you needed that video to tell you that, chances are you are one of those people that I didn't know how to handle, and thank you TheOddOne for showing people the way.
Let me blow your mind: TheOddOne brought up a situation where you would not attack the ADC if you are the anti-carry, such as Jax. He said that there were 2 tanks in front of the ADC, in this situation Renekton and Elise. The distance between Vayne (their ADC) and their Renekton was 600. His argument for avoiding Vayne is that Vayne was not in position to do damage herself, thus would be pointless to attack, until she got in range in about 2 seconds.
Do you understand at all how movement speed functions in this game? Let me enlighten you. That magical number tells you how much range your character covers over a span of 2 seconds. FE: Master Yi's base movement speed is 355, so he covers a range of 355 over 2 seconds. Use this knowledge to your advantage.
That said, assuming Vayne has homeguard boots, lets say she has 400 movement speed (just pulled that number out of nowhere) with runes and masteries. That means you have 2.5 seconds to damage their frontline before Vayne gets to you, assuming you do not move forward. This means that you get 2.5 seconds of free damage on Renekton and Elise. After that period of 2.5 seconds, KILL THAT VAYNE. She is in range to do damage now. If you are Jax, your leap covers a range of 700, you taking Vayne out of the fight/causing her to focus you.
As soon as that Vayne is in fighting range, she has become the #1 priority. Bar none. No reason not to attack her if she is close enough to attack you if you are the anti-carry. By chasing here away or scaring away for lets say 2 seconds, you just prevented WELL OVER 1k damage late-game and possibly won they game by landing the kill.
EDIT: What my team is doing matters. This is a team game. If ONE GUY has no clue what he is doing, atleast 20% of your team is effectively useless and is not only hurting you, but helping the enemy team as well because chances are that ONE GUY will die due to his poor choice of focus. I have a friend who mains ADC and I've been coaching him through ranked play. When I first started helping him, he thought he should focus the ADC. I saw him lose a teamfight as Graves because he charged right passed an enemy Alistar to get to the enemy Ashe. He started attacking the Ashe, then died instantaneously because the Alistar knocked him up and he got killed. Afterwards, I told him to allow his Malphite, who was doing a great job, and Thresh, who was also doing great, to peel for him and explained to him what peeling is. After that, he overwhelming won his next time fight after getting a Quadra kill. Point is: Him knowing what he was doing changed the game from his team overwhelmingly losing fights to his team steamrolling the other team.
MićaĆomlaDJ1 votesAnd then they switch focus to your jax , CCing him, while also getting out of range of your ADC. Jax probably won't even get an auto attack before dying, so that's 0 dps from him while your adc isnt in range of attacking anyone which means also 0 dps for him. Then they can just win the teamfight, because they did the rigth thing by focusing your frontline and peeling for their adc, who now has no real way of dying except by flashing in your team.
LifeCyclesTWA1 votesYou are assuming that its just Jax and your ADC fighting together. Look, I just typed in "Jax Challenger Gameplay" on youtube and viewed this video, its of Dyrus playing Jax and proving my point. The anti-carry for the enemy team is Tryndamere, Jax the anti-carry for his. In most situations, yes, you are correct you should focus the people on the front line. The job of anti-carries however, such as Tryndamere, Jax, and Olaf are meant to charge through the frontline an kill the carry. That is why Jax is given multiple techniques which assist in his ability to do so (700 range leap that can be used both as an escape and as a gap closer, also his dodge technique which is meant to avoid auto-attacks and a stun.) This is why Olaf has a strong slow on a low CD that allows him to stick to the ADC and the ability to break all CC with his ult in his kit. He is relentless in chasing ADCs away from fights and killing them and can charge through the frontline to do so. Tryndamere has a gap closer, a slow to stick to targets (the slow also lower the attack damage of every in range by 80 attack damage. Notice how it doesn't lower AP? He is meant to dive the ADC) and the ability to prevent his death. This means Tryndamere has ATLEAST the duration of his ult to kill your carry, and it will take you ATLEAST the duration of his ult to prevent him from doing so. There a many more examples of anti-carries, but all have 2 things in common: The ability to close gaps, and the ability to stick to targets through means of CC.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cijo5PLInuk
I stopped counting at 4 times Jax (played by Dyrus) charged through the enemy frontline to get to the enemy Jinx. My personal favorite moment is at 35:45.
Notice how he jumps into an obviously bad situation? He charged into a Nidalee, Tryndamere, and Jinx (Jinx has Guardian Angel) What do you think he did? He jumped on the Jinx that had Guardian Angel, and despite being focused heavily by Tryndamere and Jinx, he was still able to remove her Guardian Angel before dying. Because of this, his Draven was able to clean up afterwards and land a kill on said Jinx. Speaking of, Tryndamere is obviously a good player, having played well vs a pro like Dyrus and is a Challenger-ranked player, but the difference between him and a pro like Dyrus is that Dyrus knows how to play the role of anti-carry better. Look at the map again. After Jax had taken Jinx's GA and leaped over the wall using a ward, Nidalee and Jinx continued chasing Elise and in doing so gained vision of Draven. What does Tryndamere do? He chases Jax and lands the kill, which did nothing for his team in the end. Had he gone with his team, he would have killed the Draven and possibly secured the kill on the Elise. Instead, Jinx and Nidalee both die because Tryndamere chased a low priority target. If Tryndamere charged Draven the way Jax was on top of Jinx that whole game, perhaps Tryndamere's team would have won the game.
Skilled Theory1 votesThere's nothing you can do. You just have to ignore them and carry yourself.
Drukyul1 votesAlways address the problem as if it's a team issue. "C'mon everyone focus the squishies if you can."