TO the balance team, and for upcoming pre season

PhantomGG··57 votes·14,863 views

The season is nearing closer and closer to the end, and before we know it, summer will be over and worlds will be going on, and riot will be prepping for pre season experiments. But to the balance team, here is my honest advice, that I know no one will read or take into consideration.

Don't invent something new and cool or flashy. It's fair to say season 8 has been nothing more than a open beta test for the public as you try to figure out runes and itemization. Don't invent some new system or a giant class rework. Instead dedicate it to perfecting what you already have. Fix the problems that exist, commit to bug fixing, commit to balancing runes, commit to balancing items.

Instead of inventing, start correcting. Go ham in the numbers, hire more balance mathticians to join your team, and tell your design team the people who create new ideas, they can go home during pre season.

For while their ideas are great, the mathmatical team behind balance simply can't crunch the numbers at a quick enough pace that riot is producing ideas.

For every 4 ideas riot creates, the balance team can only fix one of them at a time, while all four are being released at the same time.

That's honestly the core problem right now, maybe the balance team isn't total shit, they are simply out numberd.

More ideas are being created, to the point they can't keep up with it.

25 Comments

SwiftKitten8829 votes

i think every riot team member shouldn't be allowed to play any AD champs for a month.

then they will realize how absurdly bad it is to play AP.

PhantomGG17 votes

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i think every riot team member shouldn't be allowed to play any AD champs for a month.

then they will realize how absurdly bad it is to play AP.

I just feel like the actual riot office has a math team of a single dude, and than the design team comes to drop a fucking two hundred page binder on his desk that he has to figure out by himself at this point lol .

saltran12 votes

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i think every riot team member shouldn't be allowed to play any AD champs for a month.

then they will realize how absurdly bad it is to play AP.

Wasn't Tryndamere (not the champ) a Lux main?

Saianna5 votes

He most likely went AD lux then lol :P

Killer of Night95 votes

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He most likely went AD lux then lol :P

item 3508 Lux "What's does it mean?"

AMYS GRAVE1 votes

What do you mean mana problems?

DuskDaUmbreon9 votes

I think every boards member should be allowed to only play AD and tank champions for a month.

Then they will realize how absurdly fine mages are right now.

Seriously. Most mages are good and viable right now. Some suck, sure, but most are good.

SwiftKitten887 votes

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I think every boards member should be allowed to only play AD and tank champions for a month.

We are allowed to? [slayer-pantheon-popcorn]

LordGeovanni3 votes

A month of tanks and a month on adcs a month on fighters and a month on mages.

They will see while tank may get you wins they are boring and feel like they have no impact. Bruisers are are exciting but might as well afk after anyone else gets first item. Adcs feel bad when the enemy team has team work and your team doesnt (thats not an adc problem thats a teamwork problem) Mages no one shotto people like adc so buff us?????? WHy not just tell riot to stop having adcs encroch on mage teratory and on the other hand mages can stop encroching on assassin and bruiser teratory with low cooldown burst spells ( from safe ranges).

Theorex1 votes

As a person who has played ADC for a while and also played tank for a while. I have some insight as to what you are trying to say.

First off. I suck dick at ADC. I do not represent that mage player base for having played ADC.

But I want you to consider this.

Regardless of what ADC I play. My only goal in lane is to not feed, burn the lane, come out of the lane around 20-30 CS Down. AT 12-14 minutes. Regardless of what happens in lane I will burn it if it looks dangerous. Want to know why? Because I know what a fed assassin can do to me in the future, I know what a 4 man tower dive will do to me in the long run, I know what happens when the enemy adc gets fed.

Want to know something else? I come into lane expecting to lose, and not feed. I do that and then magically outscale/outplay the enemy adc. Want to know something. Even the enemy team's mages can't touch me if I play correctly. Its always fun for me to sit there and crit someone for like 300-400 damage every auto while I hide behind my tank/support. And if I am lucky a mage like Malazhar, Orianna, Syndra.

So in short, I'm behind. Didn't even do well in lane. Was 30 CS down by 12-14 minutes. And out damaged the enemy mage lmao. Its a great feeling. But guess what I suck at ADC. So I don't main it.

As for tanks.

Tanks are great. But I also suck at them. But for a completely different reason.

Ever watch someone go ham? Yeah now do that from level 1 to level 18 on all tanks against all champions. Not only limited to tanks but also include fighters, mages, etc.

They are fun, because you wall slam someone. You taunt someone. You Root/Snare/Knock up people. And laugh as they try to leave. Its an amazing feeling to know that even if they tried to retaliate at that moment, you would only lose like 30% of your hp max.

Build Damage? Thats cool. I was building tank anyways.

Also the "Most mages are good/viable right now." lmao.

Really? Of the bottom 10 champions by win rate according to NA.OP.GG

Four are mages, four are tanks, one is an adc, and one is a fighter. (One tank can build AP, and the fighter can build tank)

Too much work for champion.gg, because they also calculate for outliers and things you will see maybe once even few hundred games.

DemoGuide12 votes

Does that mean another jungle rework? Riot reworked jungle almost every preseason, and last time they did it, they totally failed. I'm not talking about plants, plants are fine, but the bunch of changes that came with plants killed jungle diversity for a long time. Funny enough this patch went out when jungle was finally seem to be balanced for like patch or two, but changes were planned already, so it went terrible.

Badnik961 votes

too late theyre already shipping jungle changes for 8.10 and its going to be aids

Death by Glamour9 votes

Should they do this?

Definitely

Will they?

Unlikely.

They havent thought about us old players in a while now, they look to growing they game in the east rather than concentrating on the core playerbase.

Pika Fox6 votes

Id much prefer more new and innovative changes.

PhantomGG18 votes

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Id much prefer more new and innovative changes.

id prefer changes that actually work properly without a billion one glitches. If you are creating a bridge, but a vital piece of that bridge is built flawed and incorrectly, you go back and fix that piece. Finishing it while ignoring the flaw, is how the bridge will crumble.

Pika Fox1 votes

Also known as dull and boring and would be the end of a game like this.

Karunamon1 votes

No thank you. I don't want more "innovation". I want the stuff we have to be polished to a mirror sheen.

Raiyza5 votes

I just want matchmaking fixed. I want players that ward like I do. I want players that know when not to extend their lane.

I can't carry you if you don't have common game knowledge.

Velasan4 votes

It would be great if they would slow down on the constant changes and see what changes actually worked. They are looking into a few, but they've changed so much there is a giant back log.

ReySolomon3 votes

I hope this gets more upvotes so they can see and maybe consider it.

Douglas Funnie3 votes

We all know there's going to be more RNG gimmicks and more in-game quests being implemented for Pre-Season 9. Someone take a screenshot of this comment because I gaurentee you that Riot will go out of their way to implement bullshit instead of fixing their game.

I mean, it took so much time since patch 7.23 all the way up to patch 8.4 for the balance team to realize Zoe was overpowered. The Balance Team gets paid to sit around and do nothing. They are inept. Season 8 has been nothing but a total mess and the "balance team" has been doing a hackjob attempt at fixing the obvious problems with the game.

I upvoted your post because I really want Riot to pull themselves up from the toilet and flush the giant iceberg turd that is Season 8, but I'm afraid Riot has already planted their tent at the top.

Thilmer3 votes

To Riot balance team:

Please make ADC absolutely bullshit for a whole season and ignore the complains; like you have done with any other role in some season. Is the ADCs turn, is a matter of karma.

Also, maybe we could have a metagame that is not absolutely horrible and infuriating; I haven't seen that since the beginning of season 6.

Dukues2 votes

Yea honestly there's has been times when I have gotten bored of League.... generally not even for very long..... but I have. But like..... I never have I HATED a season before until season 8. Like.... not only am I sick of the game but I actually hate the thought of even playing it right now. I have so much free time some days where In the past I would just spam some games to at least get gold in ranked but.... I literally can't even stand ranked anymore. The game play is just so..... bad.... it's just an overall terrible experience. Every loss feels fucking terrible. Wins most the time don't feel too great just more like luck that your teammates aren't as shitty as enemies.

PLEASE! Balance your fucking game next season. Hopefully I am done playing the game either way as I am getting too old for this shit but it will at least let other vets and new players enjoy the game. If new players think this season fun... wait until they ACTUALLY PLAY A SEASON OF LEAGUE! Instead of whatever this barnyard explosion of an experiment is.

AMYS GRAVE2 votes

Not holding my breath, they have a hard on for untested innovation breaking their game every 4 months.

HalcyonDweller2 votes

Well said, this was a well-thought-out and respectful critique. +1

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