Ezreal Does too Much Damage for the Items he Builds

BrightWîngs··6 votes·5,088 views

Is there really any point building item 3078 on him anymore? I mean i guess if they are full AP item 3025 Isnt great but honestly why should he chunk my HP AOE slow me why having 65 armor? then once he gets item 3040 and item 3020 he can one shot me while having a massive shield.

(note this is not some rage post I genuinely feel this is unhealthy for the game)

62 Comments

FOR JUSTICE8 votes

ezreal is unhealthy as hell, considering he finds his way into the meta EVERY season simply because of his q, but he's only allowed to because bruiser items are chock full of damage. its meant for melee champs obviously so nerfing the item wouldnt help them considering they have to have their damage front loaded.

DuskDaUmbreon1 votes

But why do they have to have it frontloaded? Would it really be that bad to force bruisers to actually be durable DPS rather than straight-up burst?

Wouldn't it be far more healthy if j4 or Lee built durability and shit, rather than just straight lethality so they could one-shot?

SuicidePlank4 votes

{quoted}

But why do they have to have it frontloaded? Would it really be that bad to force bruisers to actually be durable DPS rather than straight-up burst?

Wouldn't it be far more healthy if j4 or Lee built durability and shit, rather than just straight lethality so they could one-shot?

Mate, Lethality Items are not Bruiser Items.

DuskDaUmbreon1 votes

Fine, lethality+Trinity and Sterak's or w/e

SuicidePlank2 votes

{quoted}

Fine, lethality+Trinity and Sterak's or w/e

Trinity Tiamat Item or Steraks.

No Bruiser that is a bruiser and not a specific Case like GP buys Lethality. Ever seen lethality Darius?

Bârd1 votes

Pantheon, Renekton, Garen, Yorick, Rek'sai, and Aatrox can all pick up a casual ghostblade.

AetherArising1 votes

Pantheon is an assassin, but the rest are mostly correct (Only seen it on full AD garen, and Yorick out of the rest of those, tho)

BrightWîngs1 votes

They normally buy ghost blade for the active the damage and pen is certainly a plus but a bruisers biggest weakness is not being able to get to you and stay on you (giggity) you don't see many bruisers building dusk blade or edge of night it is strictly only ghost blade bruisers are buying.

DuskDaUmbreon1 votes

Bruisers is a class larger than just juggernauts.

Moody P2 votes

bruiser items??? IBG is a tank item and the rest of his build is raw damage and mana.

Infernape6 votes

Riot just needs to make tear stacking unique. Give it the same sort of passive cull has. Once one tear item is stacked and you have it in your inventory, the passive gets disabled and will not allow another tear to be stacked. Better yet, you're limited to one tear per champ.

Either that or Riot needs to make Iceborn Gauntlet melee only. I do believe no other ranged champ apart from Viktor and Ezreal buy it regularly.

It would affect no one but Ezreal as he's the only one that abuses double tear stacking. Funny how this champ's strength depends on him finding item interactions to break.

BrightWîngs2 votes

100% agree with this

KlydeFrog1 votes

Any one can do double tear , take corki for instance. Fine you dont want iceborn then dont build it, get glacial augmentation rune which will function as a ice born effect and boom. I prefer manamune , ludens echo static , and pent item . But you need I repeat you need transcendence

KlydeFrog1 votes

Lol how can someone abuse double tears? Seeing it's a pain and expensive and time consuming to get not only 1 but 2 lol . Me I prefer manamune transcendence rune, triforce ludens echo and static shiv and ie with the slow rune from inspiration tree.( free iceborn but you do more dsmage). Your damage output is higher and you crit :) winning

IVlaverick4 votes

Everyone here getting outplayed by a champ with ALL SKILL SHOTS. You KNOW you're bad, you're just trying to find ANY way possible to nerf him and go back to rofl stomping with shit like Lucian/Draven/Miss Fortune/Kai'sa. Get absolutely rekt more and learn to side step or stay behind minions. He is 100% skill shot based and therefore it's YOUR fault if you're not good enough to step to that particular player. Ezreal is a perfect reflection of the one playing him. You just suck compared to that player if you can't beat him. FULL STOP. PERIOD.

Let the down votes commence, THANKS FOR THE SALT! :D

Neko Siren3 votes

Lol. This. ^

Sir Saltarin3 votes

They just reverted his nerfs on PBE feelsbadman

Bârd2 votes

Riot: Reworks Ezreal because his Q caused him to break one item per season.

Also Riot: Keeps Q unchanged, adds a new W that makes him better at breaking AP items.

Tiniest Turtle2 votes

I agree that his damage is kinda nuts. Yeah he has to land skill shots to one shot someone, but unlike most mages he has AAs to fall back on and his Q is on like a 2 second cooldown and it still chunks people. Of course, I am a bit salty at the moment because I was playing supp and the enemy Ez 'supp' basically made my adc irrelevant because if he ever did land a W he would just E at her and take from 1/4 to 1/3 of her health when all he had was an amp tome and a frostfang : / Partially the Vayne's fault for not dodging the skill shot, but it is pretty unfun that he can set up burst that high with one skill shot and you'll be really pressed to be outside of his range but still within range to farm. At least he had to blink at us to proc W, which allowed us to get some damage back on him, but it really didn't add up to what he was doing, and a lot of the time my Vayne couldn't retaliate because she was just chunked to 1/4 hp and had to back off.

KFCeytron1 votes

{quoted}

(note this is not some rage post I genuinely feel this is unhealthy for the game)

New meme spotted.

Saezio4 votes

The OP is not very wrong though.

I think most of us don't feel ezreal's damage is fair for how safe he is. I can understand he falls off late game...but not without a very high elo team to punish his low late damage compared to crit carries. Also, ez gets to abuse klepto at the same time which allows him way more gold than the average carry.

Deliberate Inter1 votes

Ezreal is also squishy, with evadable damage and power troughs to counterbalance his power peaks. If he was so unhealthy and so oppressive he would be pick or ban in competitive play but he's not.

Infernape2 votes

He is pick/ban in competitive. When he isn't banned, he's picked. He's sitting on a 67% pick/ban presence in pro play as of now.

Deliberate Inter1 votes

He isn't pick or ban, he is just and option and that stat is weighted by some ADC's using him as a comfort pick in a game state where almost all ADCs are on even footing. and DESPITE such a huge personal preference, soley from comfort, he is STILL unpicked or banned 33% of the time. Don't cite statistics that defeat your own argument lol

BrightWîngs1 votes

When he builds item 3025 and gets a shield from item 3040 forgive me for disagreeing that he is squishy Ezreal is by far one of if not the HARDEST adc to kill.

I don't watch competitive however I don't feel it being that relevant since competitive play and normal play are not the same thing and should never be brought up in the same conversation as equals.

My point being his items are so safe yet he does so much damage and has tankyness. Why should he be able to one shot or close to one shot with those items yet every other adc that isn't Draven Jhin or Kaisa who build complete offensive stats can't. It would be fine if he did build offensive items but he just doesn't his items are so safe and do so much damage.

Deliberate Inter1 votes

No, he's squishy and it's not like he just starts the game either and he doesn't have base stats like MF or graves or anything crazy like that.

BrightWîngs1 votes

He is by far the HARDEST adc to kill next to Sivir because of the items he builds and his E all while doing really good damage there needs to be a trade off he can't build and be so safe and do a ton of damage.

Ashe doesn't do a whole lot of damage compared to most if not all adcs because she has utility that's her trade off she loses some damage for her ability to slow stun and provide vision if she did insane damage like Ezreal she would be super strong.

Deliberate Inter1 votes

First thing's first, Ashe outscales ezreal. Second, Ezreal has to compromise his damage against many types of teamcomps, a lot of his damage can be intercepted and in a better elo or when you improve you will find champions like Kog maw and Tristana much harder to kill than ezreal :)

BrightWîngs1 votes

Not with double tear build sorry you can not convince me ezreal is weaker than ashe late game. Kog is only hard to kill if he has a major peel

And you're iron 4 dude... don't bring up elo

Deliberate Inter1 votes

No, Ashe heavily outscales Ezreal, you are confusing ezreal's uber midgame for an uber late game. Not how it works. And you have no clue if I am some legit new player, a hardstuck veteran, an inting smurf or someone who is disconnecting from games / being held back my exceptional circumstances or any number of other things. If you don't understand why Ashe is better than ezreal at 6 items then I am probably a much stronger player than you.

BrightWîngs1 votes

You have a 14% win rate in iron 4 literally bottom of the barrel...

You're KDAs each game are terrible but shows you're not an "inting smurf"

No "veteran" would have a 14% win rate in iron 4

And your KDA each game only shows no one but you is holding yourself back.

I can see Ashe being better in your elo she is a lot simpler and easier than ezreal is.

Deliberate Inter1 votes

No, In Iron ezreal has a better late game, not that it matters. In competitive play, ashe outscales hard.

BrightWîngs1 votes

Why would Ezreal be better late game in iron if Ashe is supposed to out scale him?

Competitive play is a TOTALLY different thing and should not EVER be put on the same level as normal play. The reason Ashe would be more useful than Ezreal in competitive play is because of her utility not her damage that's why they pick her in pro play she has amazing utility for the entire team.

Deliberate Inter2 votes

Because the poke phase is extended much longer and fights are less committal or decisive. And yes, Ashe out scales hard in competitive and anything 800 lp challenger plus. That's a time tested FACT.

BrightWîngs1 votes

on paper yes Ashe out scales her DPS is by far one of the best in the game dont get the idea im saying she doesnt do well late game we are straying to far from the point that was made.

the point that was made was ezreal does too much damage for the items he builds buying somthing like item 3025 over item 3078 should be a major set back in damage and it ever see a Nasus with item 3025 ? shit is fucking terrible compared to item 3078 but the combo of these three items item 3025 item 3004 item 3003 and allows him to do well late game and the double scaling on all of his abilities makes his damage Insane.

Im not saying he is broken BEYOND belief but for what he builds, how safe he is, and the damage he deals it to me feels too strong compared to everyone else who has to build full glass cannon and arnt nearly as safe.

its kinda like how Lucian is he builds item 3153 item 3071 a really safe build yet put out so much damage and was still very strong later in the game.

Deliberate Inter2 votes

I'm not talking about on paper. Ashe outscales ezreal hard both in theory and in practice. You don't understand why her kit offers more to the team, why she does so much more damage and why she is so much safer. ;)

KlydeFrog1 votes

Lol bro OP is crying over elo as his only argument lol. That's how you know he doesn't know what he is talking about.

Deliberate Inter1 votes

That and his claim that ezreal is one of the safest adcs, WTF No he's not LMAO

BrightWîngs1 votes

How is he not safe? I'm so confused lol that's like one of the main reasons you pick ezreal. I feel like I'm getting hella pranked lol

BrightWîngs1 votes

You're just not reading what I'm saying or I'm explaining it poorly either way that's not at all what I ment.

Deliberate Inter1 votes

His safety isn't close to ASHE safety, that's what you don't understand.

Deliberate Inter1 votes

You could have found a better and clear way to say that.

KlydeFrog1 votes

Bro build those 3 items on nasus and watch him slay everything. The thing is you dont need ad on nasus to do damage

BrightWîngs1 votes
  1. Nasus doesn't have double scaling on his abilities it would be terrible

  2. elo wasn't even an argument as I do recal he was the one who told me to get in a better elo to begin with. I've been giving my argument this entire time but I guess you're just not bothered to read what I'm saying and that's fine.

Deliberate Inter1 votes

I didn't tell you to get better elo, I told you that you'd be more likely to understand if you improved or found education. Either would suffice. The difference is that you tried to discredit me because this is an iron 4 account with what is now a 4% winrate in ranked games, because you couldn't actually argue that ezreal is safer than ashe. (catch 22, he's not)

KlydeFrog1 votes

lol are u dumb? q scales ad and everything else scales ap, also all u need to do is stack cdr and mana once u get those 2 items ? soooooooo

BrightWîngs1 votes

Q scales with 30% AP and 110% AD and the ability does physical damage shows how much you know about this... I dont think I need to be in this conversation anymore im clearly just being memed lol.

https://leagueoflegends.fandom.com/wiki/Ezreal

Wofye2 votes

Because the playstyle in IRON is supplementary to ezreal, not ashe. Ezreals kit allows him forgiveness for his positioning as ashe does not. On average an adcs positioning in iron is well, iron level, and so the champion is less effective. IF they had positioning comparable to above iron level well... they wouldn't be iron would they? Thus Ashe is less effective than ezreal in iron because a dead ashe is a useless ashe. Some kits enable safety and in the case of iron, if you are practicing positioning you can notice mistakes made in them without actually paying for it with champions like trist or ezreal.

Deliberate Inter2 votes

This one knows what's up :)

Hamster Frank1 votes

He...he is pick ban in comp/high elo though. He's not squishy with 65 armor, flash every 4 seconds and an enormous shield. He is strong early, mid and late game. Ashe is strong late and has no escape, same with Kog. Games don't generally even go to true late game anymore so that is a moot point, more or less.

More from Gameplay

More by BrightWîngs