I wish Nasus got his Q reworked already

Pyrithegethon·Jan 23, 2017·1 votes·821 views

I hate how this one ability makes or breaks the champ.

You didnt get lots of Q farm? You're useless.

You have 300 stacks? You're stronger mid game but shit late.

Somehow get farmed out of your mind and 1 shot everything? The game isn't fun to play vs you anymore as you got rewarded for ignoring champions to get to your 1 shots.

I'd change his Q by giving it the Sion treatment but a little different. Gain 2 stacks on last hits, 4 on last hitting with Q or killing a large creep/champion, 8 stacks if you last hit with Q on a champion or cannon minion.

17 Comments

oSEXYPLATYPUSoJan 23, 20176 votes

that wouldnt change people getting stacks

grugJan 23, 20176 votes

Gain 2 stacks on last hits without Siphoning strike? if thats not a typo then that would break nasus and make E max nasus scale insanely hard into late game.

that change you propose would break the champion early game which is arguably nasus' weakest phase.

Asayake 5150glowJan 23, 20172 votes

Yeah.. wouldn't change his playstyle at all.

Zen InethJan 24, 20171 votes

That would fix nothing. You're simply ushering in his super late game by making him stack even -harder-

ItsOrvalJan 24, 20171 votes

Nasus is the best structure killer champion in the game. By the 30 minute mark I have about 700 stacks average by then. If we already have a tank on our team, I go full Crit Nasus.

Crit Build: Deals 2k damage per Q to almost all champions, 1 hits ADCs with 700 stacks. item 3078 item 3025 item 3102 item 3046 item 3031 item 3143

Otherwise if we have no tanks, or If I am getting harassed too hard out of lane I build my Defense build (Nasus's normal build) and take towers. I tower dive almost all game making bot lane get the kills, and can take down towers in about 7 Qs.

Thales225Jan 24, 20172 votes

700 stacks on minute 30.... Yeah gtfo you lying sack of shit. If you have 80 farm every 10 minutes and use your q for EVERY SINGLE ONE. You have 720 stacks.... And I know that doesn't happen... Like ever. So don't lie....

ItsOrvalJan 24, 20171 votes

Youre forgetting about Jungler camps, Scuttler Crab, Kills, etc. Its not hard if you focus on nothing but stacks. At the start of the game I have 30% cooldown reduction from my runes/masteries. Ive hit 1000 stacks at the 40 minute mark many times. You must be bad at farming as a Nasus.

Edit: You're Bronze 4 lol

Thales225Jan 24, 20172 votes

Nah dude rank has nothing to do with it. I promise you you don't get 700 stacks in 30 minutes. That's fucking absurd. You look like a fucking idiot lying to my face. Talking about how you avg ~23 stacks per minute. Fuck off. Either show me proof or just be quiet.

Edit: It's certainly possible but I promise you that it's no where near as easy as you claim it to be

ItsOrvalJan 24, 20171 votes

Once you get better, you will realize how easy it is. Most people in Bronze elo are bad at farming in general. At the 20 minute mark you're supposed to have at least 300 stacks unless you lost your lane very badly.

Once you hit 300 stacks, you can just one hit almost every minion (If you built Trinity Force). So lets you go top lane, pushed your wave to enemy tower (lets say 3 waves), thats about 19 minions. 18x3 = 54 + 6 = 60 stacks in about 2 minutes. Now lets say you head over to your jungle and take Krugs/Raptors, thats about 54 stacks there as well. Now you just got 114 stacks in less than 5 minutes. 300 + 114 = 414. So now you have about 6 minutes to get more stacks, and look, top lane has a huge minion wave pushing toward you. Thats an extra 60 right there.

Thales225Jan 24, 20171 votes

Dude I know how to farm. My problem is that you do not on avg get 700 stacks by 30:00 I bet my life on it that your avg is not 700 stacks by 30:00 show me ranked gameplay that says otherwise and I'll believe you. And tbh if you're still farming by 30:00 you're team has probably lost by then. From what it sounds like you've just been on your island all game not worrying about anyone else. Meanwhile it's basically a 4v5 as you put no pressure on the map whatsoever. Ive digressed... you do not avg 700 stacks 30:00

Ravenous HowlsJan 27, 20171 votes

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Once you get better, you will realize how easy it is. Most people in Bronze elo are bad at farming in general. At the 20 minute mark you're supposed to have at least 300 stacks unless you lost your lane very badly.

Once you hit 300 stacks, you can just one hit almost every minion (If you built Trinity Force). So lets you go top lane, pushed your wave to enemy tower (lets say 3 waves), thats about 19 minions. 18x3 = 54 + 6 = 60 stacks in about 2 minutes. Now lets say you head over to your jungle and take Krugs/Raptors, thats about 54 stacks there as well. Now you just got 114 stacks in less than 5 minutes. 300 + 114 = 414. So now you have about 6 minutes to get more stacks, and look, top lane has a huge minion wave pushing toward you. Thats an extra 60 right there.

And miraculously while you are wasting time in the jungle you will not have the enemy minion wave pushed yo your tower where you will lose stacks, exp and gold? This is ofc assuming you actually last hit ever single one with your Q, are not contested by the enemy laner and the jungler never ganks right?

ItsOrvalJan 28, 20171 votes

... When you push a lane to the enemies tower, an enemy is most likely going to go top to reset the wave, making it go back to the middle. Which the enemy will have more cs beens he push the wave without his minions taking much damage.

Ravenous HowlsJan 30, 20171 votes

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... When you push a lane to the enemies tower, an enemy is most likely going to go top to reset the wave, making it go back to the middle. Which the enemy will have more cs beens he push the wave without his minions taking much damage.

You still aren't explaining how you rob your jungler of farm and Q every single one for a stack and make it back and Q every single minion without losing a single one to the tower... Unless the enemy champion has no ability to wave clear, highly unlikely, they will push the wave to your tower before you are done and maybe even take it down or get it close to falling. It is total BS that you get 700 stacks in the amount of time you are stating in a game that is contested. Unless you are Master smurf with a bronze account there is no way you are getting these numbers.

Ravenous HowlsJan 27, 20171 votes

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Youre forgetting about Jungler camps, Scuttler Crab, Kills, etc. Its not hard if you focus on nothing but stacks. At the start of the game I have 30% cooldown reduction from my runes/masteries. Ive hit 1000 stacks at the 40 minute mark many times. You must be bad at farming as a Nasus.

Edit: You're Bronze 4 lol

And yet when I look at your match history I see a whopping 0 Nasus Games...? But you are calling people out for being bronze when you have no games in ranked with Nasus... As an ACTUAL Nasus main I can say with certainty that starting with 30% CDR is asking to lose lane unless you are up against a potato. 250-350 is probably the average an excellent Nasus will have by 20 minutes if they are up against anyone who knows how to lane.

Crit Nasus is also a trash build and might work at low elo norms but will find no lack of failure in gold or higher. Seeing how most champs that are META require kills to snowball properly all you have to do is farm and not die to win the lane and become far more useful late game then any of them.

ItsOrvalJan 28, 20171 votes

And yet when I look at your match history I see a whopping 0 Nasus Games...? But you are calling people out for being bronze when you have no games in ranked with Nasus...

http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=ItsOrval Anyone with half a brain/self thinking would know that either this account is banned or is an alt account. The account is unranked, and has 0 games to show in its history.

As an ACTUAL Nasus main I can say with certainty that starting with 30% CDR is asking to lose lane unless you are up against a potato. 250-350 is probably the average an excellent Nasus will have by 20 minutes if they are up against anyone who knows how to lane.

http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=Lazarus+Blade Your match history shows that you dont even try to get farm. You get average 200 cs every 35 minutes as Nasus. Thats awful for a champion who relies on farm. Also your runes/Masteries show that you take no cooldown runes and just go full resistance.

Crit Nasus is also a trash build and might work at low elo norms but will find no lack of failure in gold or higher.

It is a trash build yes, the build I gave as an example was actually the wrong build I use anyways (which I will fix). The reason I use the Crit Nasus build is to shut down the ADC/Riven/etc. as fast as I can.

Ravenous HowlsJan 30, 20171 votes

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http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=ItsOrval Anyone with half a brain/self thinking would know that either this account is banned or is an alt account. The account is unranked, and has 0 games to show in its history.

http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=Lazarus+Blade Your match history shows that you dont even try to get farm. You get average 200 cs every 35 minutes as Nasus. Thats awful for a champion who relies on farm. Also your runes/Masteries show that you take no cooldown runes and just go full resistance.

It is a trash build yes, the build I gave as an example was actually the wrong build I use anyways (which I will fix). The reason I use the Crit Nasus build is to shut down the ADC/Riven/etc. as fast as I can.

It's always convenient for someone to talk trash, claim they are using an alt account but then have nothing to back up their point. Either put up or shut up. My Match History is clear to see if we can't have access to your supposed real account then there is nothing to verify your claims except hot air.

I do get farm I just don't focus only on it. I play for objectives which are the greatest source of power in the game, even for Nasus. I don't need CDR, I need to survive. If you are dead what good is CDR?

Not even going to talk Crit Nasus. ARAM or norms are w/e but in ranked games this would be pure idiocy unless again you are laning against a potato.