The Zed nerfs were confirmed to be for more counterplay

SwapShadows··2 votes·920 views

because that's exactly what Zed needs, more counterplay.

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pE4CbxDPQO2 votes

I recently played Zed against a team that had two fairly unkillable tanks, two mages with zhonyas and a graves with qss. I did not have a good time. I became nearly useless. They itemized to create a 5v4. Stop crying.

ssjx3squall2 votes

by late game his R is useless always. What counter play do they need? Aps rush zhonyas and adcs rush QSS... tanks just stack hp and armor. its about the easiest shit to counter play especially since on AP item effectively negates it.

stuartk111 votes

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by late game his R is useless always. What counter play do they need? Aps rush zhonyas and adcs rush QSS... tanks just stack hp and armor. its about the easiest shit to counter play especially since on AP item effectively negates it.

Zonya's counters a lot of things in this game. Infact, almost anything. Zed relies so heavily on his deathmark that using Zonya's against it really mitigates his damage, and the armour that it gives counters him pretty well too. Though Zed is still an effective assassin, the fact that most APs rush Zonya's regardless of lane match-up (and will certainly when they see a Zed) means that he isn't effective for too long in lane. QSS is a little bit different, since it does greatly reduce the damage of an ADC who builds it, and ADCs that itemise defensive items anywhere before their 3rd item will be much weaker than the opponents. But Zonya's still gives 120 AP, so yeah.

Snowfox1 votes

If the Zed isn't roaming hugely, building the BF sword, then the QSS into Merc isn't even a large power dip. Even if he is roaming, QSS is better than death and works on all CC so have multiple uses.

SquirrellyOtter1 votes

*implying anyone still plays Zed in the tank meta

Vistha Kai1 votes

Yeah, by mid-late game Zed can only ult a support.

Snowfox1 votes

Supports have a lot of cc, I wouldn't ult a support :P

Vistha Kai1 votes

Well Top lane and jungle - too tanky Mid - Zhonya ADC - QSS

Only support is left to ult.

Snowfox1 votes

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Well Top lane and jungle - too tanky Mid - Zhonya ADC - QSS

Only support is left to ult.

Support - Built in CC monster + probably too tanky

Vistha Kai1 votes

Unless it's the like of Sona, Nami or Bard, in which case killing them shouldn't be a problem.

Snowfox1 votes

If Sona and Bard have ult then they will win/survive. Nami can bubble or ult to do the same.

Mooing Kev1 votes

Hey atleast hes chances of getting a skin just sky rocketed.

Hôkagé1 votes

Zed does have counterplay, and now in the tank meta assassins in general are weaker

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