Can Conqueror PLEASE be removed?

Bouncemaster Zac·7/30/2018, 11:37:06 AM·36 votes·10,763 views

The idea of just straight up giving anyone who autoattacks on occasion 20% true damage conversion on all their damage is not just a poor balancing decision, it's laughable, stupid, and was clearly suggested by someone who doesn't play the game. Gearing it specifically towards fighters, who have the most access to true damage out of every class to begin with is fucking mind-numbing. But the worst is seeing it abused by ADCs, who with the new can double up on their true damage. There is no version of LoL in which it is acceptable for a Draven to end the game with 20k True Damage dealt, but that's exactly what we're getting.

91 Comments

Automated Riven7/30/2018, 2:38:09 PM14 votes

I don't think conqueror is really the problem. The big issue IMHO is that it can be stacked outside of combat with minions. I think it should be 3-4 auto attacks on an enemy champion before it procs. Or something like that.

Madsin257/30/2018, 2:36:35 PM10 votes

I wouldn't mind either IE or conq giving true damage.

When they both can exist and operate together with synergy is where there is a problem.

Tanks can not play the game with those two stacking together giving 30% true damage.

GayFluffyUnicorn7/30/2018, 3:15:04 PM6 votes

Gotta say i really felt the opness of conq. when i couldnt fight the toplane gragas who was 140 CS down the entire game i was kled btw.

Or the cho gath outrightclicking me as conq. darius.

CHEWYARMS7/30/2018, 4:17:42 PM4 votes

Lol... That's fine. Revert top lane to the cancerous/ boring pick a tank or be useless the whole game meta. Such fun.

Instead of saying fuck top lane how about making conqueror melee only. Or have some sort of disadvantage when used on ranged.

Vlada Cut7/30/2018, 1:46:20 PM4 votes

No. Bye.

ZackTheWaffleMan7/30/2018, 1:53:01 PM3 votes

At least IE is nerfed on the PBE. It's down to 10% true damage conversion.

The Ecdysiast7/31/2018, 6:07:37 PM2 votes

It's really enough to give us just the AD. The true damage conversion just makes it unfair.

KnightOfEloHell7/30/2018, 4:20:46 PM2 votes

It should be melee only, or some sort of penalty for ranged use

Pika Fox7/30/2018, 6:36:09 PM2 votes

Alright, let me fix this, since none of you still understand true damage.

If you convert 20% of damage dealt into true damage, that is /not/ a 20% increase in damage. In general, 50-70% of that would have gone through, so youre really only seeing a 5-9% increase at best for most targets. It gets even worse the more ARpen you have, as more of that would have gone through anyway.

In general, the AD bonus you get from it is more substantial than the true damage itself.

Freeza with an I7/30/2018, 7:49:24 PM2 votes

It's a big issue IMO, champs like Jax can just abuse the hell out of it. It becomes unfun when I should be able to outduel him when all of a sudden he's dealing 400 true damage alongside his magic and phys damage.

Pandemic Punch7/30/2018, 10:44:50 PM2 votes

Remove it. Never should have been implemented.

Jefftiffy7/31/2018, 1:23:39 AM2 votes

The problem with conqueror is its literally just a better version of Press the Attack, but takes no time to set up. 4s is a very short window that most champs can achieve by AA the minion wave 2 times and the fact that if your melee it never ends makes it even dumber. You wonder why ADCs are dead? Because how the hell do they live when anybody with conqueror basically has 20% free armor pen negating the little armor they have early on top of their late game shift in power.