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VvVVvV··19 votes·1,205 views

Where else can i get grouped with a premade of 4 who blame the loss of a entire game on me because I didnt take TP lol. Hell, the others teams top didnt even have TP either so what are they complaining for?

Lets ignore the fact that 1 of them in their premade of 4 had the most deaths on the team, to the point that you could add any other 2 on the team up and at best just tie her deaths total.

Lets ignore the fact that the jungler only ganked his premades lanes.

Lets ignore the fact that while standing in wards....enemy team was able to get 2 uncontested infernal dragons while mid and bot just farmed.

No no no, none of that matters....lets just rage, blame and verbally abuse the top because he didnt take TP because ..you know......we have to blame someone for every loss.

Just yet another bad experience while grouped with a large premade group who no matter what happens refuses to take responsibility for their own actions. And no matter how much in the wrong one of them are...they just take up for each other and never report reportable actions.

Downvote all you want but no one can deny the fact that games and experiences like this are only made possible because of the DQ system. For the simple fact that if it were a game with 5 solo players...or even just a game with 2 people duoing and 3 solo players......the amount of verbal abuse put towards my way and how much they completely ignored each others own mistakes would not have taken place.................and surely me having TP would not be the best they could come up with especially when we had a adc who died so much that if she was streaming her viewers would think she was broadcasting in greyscale.

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seraph1m5 votes

dynamic q is cancer sir

Wobly2 votes

Happy day, this is the only SoloQ rant thread on the front page. Maybe people are finally getting over it / leaving the game and we can go back to talking about gameplay again.

VvVVvV6 votes

lol

Hey its a legit rant. Im not like other people just complaining about people using it to get boosted. My only problem with it is that it allows for games like the one i described above. This is my 4th legit bad experience with a known 3 or 4 member premade group. The other 3 games were all troll premades. i will not go into long detail on the details of all 3 of those games but 1 of them was a 3 man premade of smurfs who intentionally let other team win so that their accounts stay in Bronze......one of them was 30 - 0. But in the other teams final push the 3 smurfs just sat at the fountain leaving me and the other solo to defend 2v5...we died and we lost.

Actually i just thought of a 5th game....but it was a normal game.....there was no toxicness involved but the 4 man premade just gave up too early.....we was down 5 kills but towers were even and they out voted me to surrender 4 to 1.......completely unnecessary to surrender that game and it was out of my control.

If Riot would come up with things to counter stuff like this from happening then i wouldnt have a problem with it.

Wobly3 votes

I'd be fine with them removing 4 man premades, but honestly I see plenty of toxicity from groups sizing from 1-3 also. If they'd just ban toxic players more aggressively in general, that might be a better solution.

seraph1m3 votes

{quoted}

Happy day, this is the only SoloQ rant thread on the front page. Maybe people are finally getting over it / leaving the game and we can go back to talking about gameplay again.

yeah a good chunk of the players leaving is a real good thing

Wobly1 votes

The League playerbase is bigger than it ever has been. So if people are leaving, more than enough are coming in to fill their spots.

https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/4vswoj/the_state_of_the_game_august_2016/

seraph1m3 votes

{quoted}

The League playerbase is bigger than it ever has been. So if people are leaving, more than enough are coming in to fill their spots.

https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/4vswoj/the_state_of_the_game_august_2016/

then explain silvers waiting for 10 minute qs?

and on top of that anyone who posts on the reddit threads are riot boot lickers they probably fabricate all their statistics

seraph1m2 votes

{quoted}

The League playerbase is bigger than it ever has been. So if people are leaving, more than enough are coming in to fill their spots.

https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/4vswoj/the_state_of_the_game_august_2016/

Ohh and yeah their ranked stats increased but that doesnt mean more players by any stretch of the imagination what DQ did was move alot of players from normal to ranked because it became super casual rank means nothing kind of q

Wobly2 votes

If you read the full post you'll see that he addressed your point.

Johr Dinh1 votes

I like how DQ has brought more people into ranked than ever before, numbers have skyrocketed, but it still can't survive if they add a solo queue back in the game as well. It would all crumble and die overnight of that happened...meanwhile Halo with a population of like 20-30k at times has like 10 ranked playlists lol.

Summonerrr 12 votes

Legitimate emergent toxicity pattern directly caused by said DQ system is legitimate.

Mr Fidori2 votes

This was just as possible (and more prevalent) with the old system.

VvVVvV1 votes

OK im going to explain how it was not just as possible and since you believe it is I want you to explain how it was just as possible. You should have no problem doing so because no one would make a statement they cant fully explain would they?

Now the reason I say it was not just as possible is because with the old system...the most you could premade with was a duo group of TWO. So lets say you even end up on a team with 2 seperate sets of duo groups and you are the only solo. What do you think the odds are that both duo groups would completely ignore all of their mistakes and just focus all comments towards the one solo player on the team? I dont think thats going to happen........if one of the people or both in 1 of the duo sets is performing terrible and they are the one jumping on your case over something little.....odds are one of the people on the other duo set will call them out on it or say something....because they are not together therefore have no reason to ignore that persons mistakes.

Im sure everyone that has been around since DQ system started has been in at least 1 game where you can tell who is a premade by them having the same club tag. One of there premade group is feeding like no tomorrow.......but no one in their premade group says 1 word to them abou t it......but then let someone else not in their group get a few deaths and all the sudden one of them get onto them about feeding. Ive never once been on a team that i knew i was the solo with a premade of 4 and seen any of them call each other out to the level that they do the solo.

So you said its just as possible and even more prevalent......please ex-plain how and why?

Mr Fidori2 votes

Regarding this situation, not taking TP as a top laner is exactly the kind of thing four solos (or two duos) would nitpick at as an excuse for why a game was going bad in the old system. All it takes is for one person to call it out as the scapegoat, and the rest of the team jumps on board. If this didn't use to happen to you, then consider yourself lucky.

The old system fostered a culture of "every man for himself" where people played snowbally champs and very few people thought about team play (or god forbid, communication). It was a common lament, even among the top players/streamers, that the way to climb was to start off an OTP on a champ that had carry potential, and as a result, most solos did & still do find another player to gang up on as the cause for their misfortune. Dynamic Queue hasn't necessarily fixed this mindset, but it certainly didn't cause it.

Im sure everyone that has been around since DQ system started has been in at least 1 game where you can tell who is a premade by them having the same club tag...

Regarding this, you're right: people in skype aren't going to use chat to talk about each others mistakes. Speaking from experience though, they will talk about it verbally. Any rational group player won't pick on a solo for a few deaths if they themselves have fed more. If they do (and they do sometimes), it's a flaw with the person. But the queue doesn't inherently make them do that.

Incidentally, in the few games I've played ranked with a trio (and the many normals) I've faced far more harassment than when I just play solo, which is why I rarely rank with more than 1 friend. It's not worth dealing with.

THE BEST TROLLER1 votes

Rito is forcing people to make premade for his benefits. Well, I tried to make premades many times and all were destined to end by flamers Braum Skarner Skarner Skarner Skarner

Akali is SO HOT1 votes

Yeah Dairy Queen is fukn awesome

VvVVvV1 votes

Baskin Robins got 50 flavors tho

redfeenix1 votes

thats awful lmfao :(

But I think we shouldnt generalize all premades are bad. My friends and I play a lot and we have fun . We are always super awesome to other players not in our premade. But i've read a lot of these board posts and looks like some premades are toxic.

All I gotta say is I'm sorry for that experience, but no that not all of us premades are toxic / bad! Most of us are nice (at least I am :D)

VvVVvV1 votes

Oh yes i know. Im not saying all premades are bad. Im just pointing out that experiences like this are only made possible by the DQ system. Ive only had 4 known bad experiences from large premades...this was just the latest one. I play a lot of games so maybe 4 of however many I have played is not that bad? or maybe is is because its 4 too many.

I can take a loss, I can admit bad games. But I dont need extra losses from premade groups of 3 and 4 trolls, or smurfs who dominate the game and then sit at fountain and let other team push and win so that their accounts stay at the rank they are and then just laugh about it when asked why (which i have experience). Or heavy verbal abuse from large premades ignoring each others mistakes and just jumping the solos.....yeah you can mute them, but when you do that they all report you for no communicating...its a lose / lose situation.

People who mainly que up in premades dont even know stuff like this happens.......but que up enough solo games and you are bound to experience it.

BakedLotion1 votes

{quoted}

Oh yes i know. Im not saying all premades are bad. Im just pointing out that experiences like this are only made possible by the DQ system. Ive only had 4 known bad experiences from large premades...this was just the latest one. I play a lot of games so maybe 4 of however many I have played is not that bad? or maybe is is because its 4 too many.

I can take a loss, I can admit bad games. But I dont need extra losses from premade groups of 3 and 4 trolls, or smurfs who dominate the game and then sit at fountain and let other team push and win so that their accounts stay at the rank they are and then just laugh about it when asked why (which i have experience). Or heavy verbal abuse from large premades ignoring each others mistakes and just jumping the solos.....yeah you can mute them, but when you do that they all report you for no communicating...its a lose / lose situation.

People who mainly que up in premades dont even know stuff like this happens.......but que up enough solo games and you are bound to experience it.

We all know Dynamic Queue is better man. Don't you see that most players have a Dynamic Badge? People clearly like dynamic queue!!! sike fucking riot. Giving duo players a fucking dynamic badge suck my fucking dick. Duo 3 games out of 10 while 7 are solo? You're a Dynamic queue player. ty rito. Never have i put so many fuckings in one sentence

VvVVvV1 votes

We also all know no one from Riot even cares enough to even comment on the subject. They said at the Round Table solo wasnt coming back and that was last I know of them commenting.

From the looks of it to get a response on here from someone official you have to kiss ass and put @Meddler in y our title or make the post about Yasuo. They remain so hush hush about it because they know the DQ system was a fail, their data on it lower toxicity is skewed and they know it and refuse to admit it.

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