Poppy and Runeglaive

[{quoted}](name=Hinro Honato,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Bj19NWvn,comment-id=0000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2015-06-16T15:20:45.108+0000)

How would I know what you do? I don't even know who you are. Congrats on making it to diamond. And as for that last bit diamond still falls short of pro. gj being a condescending dick though.

Here is why I'm a bit confused here: I don't have problems clearing in the new jungle and I'm a complete scrub. How do you have problems with it? I'm sure you can understand why there is confusion here. You're an insanely better player than myself (That's not sarcasm, I'm well aware that if you can make it that high you're better than me in this game :p) so why is it that I don't have problems with it but you do? The first three camps are rough I'm not denying that any but after you upgrade smite it's easy as hell.

That's the problem with the new jungle honestly. Once you get your upgrade the jungle is the easiest place to be and for quite a few champs even without the upgrade you can clear until 6 without needing to back. So I disagree that the jungle is harder to clear now.

You're comparing viability to "able to". Sure you CAN clear as poppy jungle. But you can not clear viably.

Tell me, how much mana does her kit cost on a gank and how much of it you have to spend on the jungle? Most of it? 185(+100 for ult at 6) is her rotation cost before she hits level 8 assuming you are maxing Q. Considering you spend 2-4 Q's a camp, that is 100-200 mana per camp with a base mana pool of 235. By level 6 you have 354 mana. 285 is the entire one rotation with ult. Meaning you can't gank unless you are above 285 mana. Meaning you can't Q twice in the jungle before ganking.

I'm not trying to sound like a condescending dick when I say I did it to Diamond. I'm merely saying that I have actual experience on it. She can't jungle viably because of mana issues and clear times. You either speed up your jungle and can't gank at all or you conserve mana for the ganks of which you are slowing down on the jungle when her clear time is already bad.

So it's not about what you "think" works. It's about the actual facts on the tables. This is why low elo can't progress out of low elo. They ignore the facts on the tables and continue to just assume how things work. No offense.