Playing with Yorick is feel like playing with garbage

ValiantKiller·Nov 3, 2018·30 votes·12,712 views

The only way you legit can win with him if you was against a very weak laner or some squishy thing. Otherwise he just garbage and beyond garbage, my god you can't lane with him anymore or trade with any other champions by all means, what the hell riot give the guy some love.

And may i ask something here, why that dumb champion that called able to farm ghouls with ease and one shot them making them free dashing boards? I hate that dumb thing called on-hit skills, so dumb.

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Hayaishi2Nov 3, 201824 votes

I'm sorry but Yorick currently isn't in the list of champions Riot cares about. Please refer to Irelia, Aatrox or Kaisa.

ValiantKillerNov 3, 20185 votes

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I'm sorry but Yorick currently isn't in the list of champions Riot cares about. Please refer to Irelia, Aatrox or Kaisa.

That is so true, jax, irleia, akali, stupid champions get love only.

General MattyNov 7, 20181 votes

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I'm sorry but Yorick currently isn't in the list of champions Riot cares about. Please refer to Irelia, Aatrox or Kaisa.

ouch

MadVikingNov 4, 20187 votes

Yorick didn't deserve the nerf.

In order for him to even deal damage you need to prep Graves or have ult up. His ult is on a huge CD early and if it's not up during a fight and no ghouls yorick is weak.

Yorick ought to be strong when he has minions, because this is his window of power.

Currently as he stands Yorick has a larger windows of weakness than power.

Yorick needs a actual passive. His passive has no value, raising ghouls should all be part of his Q and ult.

ValiantKillerNov 4, 20183 votes

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Yorick didn't deserve the nerf.

In order for him to even deal damage you need to prep Graves or have ult up. His ult is on a huge CD early and if it's not up during a fight and no ghouls yorick is weak.

Yorick ought to be strong when he has minions, because this is his window of power.

Currently as he stands Yorick has a larger windows of weakness than power.

Yorick needs a actual passive. His passive has no value, raising ghouls should all be part of his Q and ult.

He can't fight back till level 11 and he can't farm either at all if he against stronger laner or dump champions with dash like Yasuo and Irelia

DragonSheaNov 4, 20183 votes

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He can't fight back till level 11 and he can't farm either at all if he against stronger laner or dump champions with dash like and

True, His current passive needs to be added to his Q, What he needs is some extra power for himself, His selfheal is garbage, his ghouls can easily be countered and his wall can be dashed out of. Too many counter, too few anti-counters.

What Yorick needs is something that can punish people for trying to trade with him without his ghouls as well some more utility. His W needs to ground his target when inside the wall and then slow them for x period after they leave. Right now it only works as a strong immobile champ counter.

ValiantKillerNov 4, 20183 votes

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True, His current passive needs to be added to his Q, What he needs is some extra power for himself, His selfheal is garbage, his ghouls can easily be countered and his wall can be dashed out of. Too many counter, too few anti-counters.

What Yorick needs is something that can punish people for trying to trade with him without his ghouls as well some more utility. His W needs to ground his target when inside the wall and then slow them for x period after they leave. Right now it only works as a strong immobile champ counter.

That what i thought as well when i thought about a way to improve his w, is by making it punish people for leaving otherwise as you said it good against immobile champions only.

ValiantKillerNov 4, 20183 votes

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True, His current passive needs to be added to his Q, What he needs is some extra power for himself, His selfheal is garbage, his ghouls can easily be countered and his wall can be dashed out of. Too many counter, too few anti-counters.

What Yorick needs is something that can punish people for trying to trade with him without his ghouls as well some more utility. His W needs to ground his target when inside the wall and then slow them for x period after they leave. Right now it only works as a strong immobile champ counter.

Infact look at Nasus you legit can't punish him if he played safe and once he reach level 6 with 60+ stacks + shen he can destroy you and trade back if must while yorick need level 11 + shen to do that

DragonSheaNov 4, 20181 votes

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Infact look at you legit can't punish him if he played safe and once he reach level 6 with 60+ stacks + shen he can destroy you and trade back if must while yorick need level 11 + shen to do that

True, The main issue is what yorick and do without ghouls. He needs something more for when he got no ghouls around. having a playstyle that is reliant on one-hit kill minions is a bad design and they should either be on hand like old yorick used to have, or else buff yorick's own power by making his other abilities stronger or even giving him a mini-rework. Right now he is getting worse and worse.

ValiantKillerNov 4, 20181 votes

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True, The main issue is what yorick and do without ghouls. He needs something more for when he got no ghouls around. having a playstyle that is reliant on one-hit kill minions is a bad design and they should either be on hand like old yorick used to have, or else buff yorick's own power by making his other abilities stronger or even giving him a mini-rework. Right now he is getting worse and worse.

That is true, i saw that he had two type of ghouls back then as well so i don't know.

DragonSheaNov 5, 20181 votes

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That is true, i saw that he had two type of ghouls back then as well so i don't know.

He had three types of ghouls and a passive that reduced the damage he took while they were out by 5% up to 20%. That was good passive if you ask me, but he needs something that translates well into his role as a juggernaut split-pushing summoner champ.

ValiantKillerNov 5, 20181 votes

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He had three types of ghouls and a passive that reduced the damage he took while they were out by 5% up to 20%. That was good passive if you ask me, but he needs something that translates well into his role as a juggernaut split-pushing summoner champ.

I mean taking less damage or getting shield or increase heal from his Q while ghouls is around is a good start to make him in good shape.

DragonSheaNov 5, 20181 votes

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I mean taking less damage or getting shield or increase heal from his Q while ghouls is around is a good start to make him in good shape.

I think that he needs something separate from his ghouls, without them Yorick is weaker than most juggs and I have said several times that he needs more power for himself. his ghouls are glass cannons and making Yorick too reliant on them or his maiden just makes him too clunky. What Yorick's Q heal needs is to scale with his Max HP from 2% up to 5% max HP base on his current HP when he strikes a champion.

ValiantKillerNov 5, 20181 votes

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I think that he needs something separate from his ghouls, without them Yorick is weaker than most juggs and I have said several times that he needs more power for himself. his ghouls are glass cannons and making Yorick too reliant on them or his maiden just makes him too clunky. What Yorick's Q heal needs is to scale with his Max HP from 2% up to 5% max HP base on his current HP when he strikes a champion.

He just some sort of decent sustain like nasus and how you said it something that scale aside from his ghouls

LilxPaprikaNov 3, 20186 votes

I mean he does belong in the graveyard. The yard of unplayed champions.

ValiantKillerNov 3, 20185 votes

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I mean he does belong in the graveyard. The yard of unplayed champions.

Rip for himand for everyone that want to play him, cause riot don't care while champions like that stupid toxic Sion run around free with his damage to towers and tankies.

Happy Love PileNov 4, 20184 votes

"free damage" He literally has to die for it most of the time? I don't think you understand the concept of free, do you?

CHEWYARMSNov 4, 20185 votes

Mmmm i wouldnt mind seeing a slow added to his wall if you dash through it rather than destroying it.

However grounding people might be over powered.

But yeah... His early game is so trash. They need to revert the last nerf and he would be fine.

5050BSNov 5, 20181 votes

With the number of dashes it is needed. His wall use to do what it was intended but that was before CT and every champ gaining a dash/Leap. now his wall is used to block minion waves...

illegal memeNov 4, 20184 votes

he's the first champion I bought with RP because I like playing champions that have pets to control. Sadly I don't play him anymore, especially after irelia rework. Q ghouls stack passive then she just runs me down.

ValiantKillerNov 4, 20183 votes

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he's the first champion I bought with RP because I like playing champions that have pets to control. Sadly I don't play him anymore, especially after irelia rework. Q ghouls stack passive then she just runs me down.

Yah she can stack 4 times then r you and you pretty much dead without any counter or escape from her.

meowwow7Nov 3, 20182 votes

i hope this isn't due to the game with poppy and rengo decimating you, and you building more hp even though poppy's q does %hp physical dmg

ValiantKillerNov 3, 20182 votes

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i hope this isn't due to the game with poppy and rengo decimating you, and you building more hp even though poppy's q does %hp physical dmg

It not cause of that, i know that game i got rekt cause my jungler decide it good idea to fight 1v2 against poppy and rengar in their wave and i followed like idiot. I talking about the general , right now even on op.gg yorick is the bottom of top champions lower than Tryndamere and Maokai . Not to mention since his nerf and i notice how much he so weak in the damn lane special against his counters that just dive him and melt him from Renekton to Irelia .

He beyond garbage and only good as counter pick to squishy or mages top aside from the stupid Viktor

meowwow7Nov 3, 20181 votes

wait when did yorick get nerfed?

ValiantKillerNov 4, 20183 votes

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wait when did yorick get nerfed?

When they nerfed garen cause both of garen and yorick was taking over low elo, so riot just knee hit yorick while give little nerf to garen q

meowwow7Nov 4, 20181 votes

can you be specific on the nerf or am i going to have to go on a goose chase to find the patch where they nerfed both yorick and garen at once?

VerxintNov 4, 20183 votes

Or you could look at yorick on the wiki and see his most recent changes and it'll tell you what patch..

ValiantKillerNov 4, 20182 votes

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can you be specific on the nerf or am i going to have to go on a goose chase to find the patch where they nerfed both yorick and garen at once?

https://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/game-updates/patch/patch-817-notes here you lazy one

meowwow7Nov 4, 20181 votes

so they nerfed the early dmg of his minions to make it where he has to actually scale to have people pay attention to his minions?

Z3SleeperNov 4, 20184 votes

I don't think it happened at the same time. Pretty sure Garen got nerfed a patch or two earlier. But yeah, they nerfed Yorick's early game hard.

2 5 8 11 14 17 20 25 30 35 40 45 50 60 70 80 90 100 ---> 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 14 20 26 32 38 44 55 66 77 88 99

I mean, just look at level 7. Base damage went from 80 (4x20) -> 48 (4x8). Instead of the old more linear scaling it now scales extremely slow early on then starts catching up but always stays behind the pre-nerf values.

SuffocateMeDaddyNov 4, 20182 votes

And may i ask something here, why that dumb brainless champion that called able to farm ghouls with ease and one shot them making them free dashing boards?

Okay buddy, Yorick player calling anything brainless champion is already funny enough. Calling Irelia brainless is just too funny to be left alone.

I hate that dumb thing called on-hit skills, so dumb.

Weird, Yorick poses single skillshot, Irelia 3.

ValiantKillerNov 4, 20182 votes

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Okay buddy, Yorick player calling anything brainless champion is already funny enough. Calling Irelia brainless is just too funny to be left alone.

Weird, Yorick poses single skillshot, Irelia 3.

And how that related to on hit topic? What is with skillshots and on hit??

Happy Love PileNov 4, 20181 votes

You called Irelia brainless, ironically Yorick just mindlessly splitpushes

I lit your babyNov 4, 20186 votes

ironically playing op af champ makes you brainless even more, thant the champ it self.

Irelia players are not 'good'

Happy Love PileNov 4, 20181 votes

Not really, there has always, and will always, be strong champs. The meta is defined by the stronger champions, because they're the most likely to result in victory. Maybe learn what meta means

And YIKES if Irelia players aren't good, explain TF Blade.

I lit your babyNov 4, 20185 votes

Strong not means thy shoud be str8 broken.

Learn what being 'good' means, meta just showes what heroes are popular, that's all.

And YIKES if Irelia players aren't good, explain TF Blade. He has good game undestanding, not quite a secret. But his whole stream is like 'i pick broken heroes, lol, i'm so gud'

ValiantKillerNov 4, 20182 votes

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Strong not means thy shoud be str8 broken.

Learn what being 'good' means, meta just showes what heroes are popular, that's all.

And YIKES if Irelia players aren't good, explain TF Blade. He has good game undestanding, not quite a secret. But his whole stream is like 'i pick broken heroes, lol, i'm so gud'

Heya i know how to be op with meta op champions like sion, bravo.

Happy Love PileNov 4, 20181 votes

No, meta is the best strategy available. The two often times go together.

I lit your babyNov 5, 20181 votes

There's no 'strategy' in lol right now. Whole game is like battlerite with creeps.

Happy Love PileNov 5, 20181 votes

200 IQ. I highly doubt you could tell strategy in prior seasons either

I lit your babyNov 6, 20181 votes

Wasn't playing this 'game' in prior seasons.

But even for a few decades of games i can tell that jungling needed much more skill and got 10x strategy, than now. Preparation before the game was way more impactful(runes/masteries) Supports were supporting and they didn't have as much money, as adc. Vision wasn't that nerfed. And of course heroes kit even if was more simple, but in result required much more skill. Not to forget many heroes had different playstyle.(ap trist, adc tf for example)

Happy Love PileNov 6, 20181 votes

Let me tell you from experience, the old runes and masteries were not preparation at all. You pretty much took the same runes for every game. Supports had it awful, they were glorified ward bots. No one liked supporting at all. You're right, vision shouldn't have been nerfed so heavily. And it's harder to balance kits like that, as one playstyle will be better. Riot doesn't want to have kits like that anymore, as it's much harder to balance.

I lit your babyNov 7, 20181 votes

Let me tell you from experience, the old runes and masteries were not preparation at all. You pretty much took the same runes for every game. Agree. But anyway, you could adjust at least some stats.

Supports had it awful, they were glorified ward bots. No one liked supporting at all. No one liking it still, unless it's mages, that supporting. But support role was at least supporting your adc, now it's like 'here's your shield, kill them' or 'i'm coming in and deal more damage, than you, bruh'

And it's harder to balance kits like that, as one playstyle will be better. Riot doesn't want to have kits like that anymore, as it's much harder to balance. They pretty much fucked up game in every possible way right now. So i guess, it's hard to make it any worse.

DeusVultNov 4, 20181 votes

I agree with you, but I have also seen Yorick OTPs become 1v5 unkillable monsters at 2+ items. Yet I try to do the same thing in a normal game and get stomped

ValiantKillerNov 4, 20182 votes

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I agree with you, but I have also seen Yorick OTPs become 1v5 unkillable monsters at 2+ items. Yet I try to do the same thing in a normal game and get stomped

Yorick just like nasus can legit 1v5 cause he scaling hard but unlike nasus he doesn't have lifesteal to surive lane the only one two things that keep him alive is his q little heal windiw and hia ghouls fighting for him but since the nerf his ghouls are worthless making him easy to poked

Happy Love PileNov 4, 20181 votes

Why should a hyper scaling monster have a good lane phase?

ValiantKillerNov 4, 20183 votes

Maybe cause all champions like him who scale got a nice laning? Maybe cause all champions like him isn't garbage in lane phase?

Happy Love PileNov 4, 20181 votes

Just because other's have it doesn't mean Yorick should as well. Yorick also has the possibility to send the maiden into a side lane and fight with his team, this is something pretty much exclusive to Yorick. There's something called trade offs. He trades a weak laning phase for a very good mid-late scaling splitpusher

illegal memeNov 4, 20184 votes

TBH if you actually played yorick, you'd known that without maiden your damage in team fight is really shitty, especially early-mid game. You need minion wave to get ghouls. But your ghouls die to one aa. If the fight takes place in jungle you are fucked. So the only thing you can do in team fight without maiden is hoping your W trap someone or that weird E hitbox actually hit a squishy.

On top of that, before level 2 ult and triforce, the maiden has a huge cool down.

The splitpush two lane at the same time is a meme because it's extremely situational. The best I have done is push one lane with herald then tp to another push with maiden.

ValiantKillerNov 4, 20182 votes

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TBH if you actually played yorick, you'd known that without maiden your damage in team fight is really shitty, especially early-mid game. You need minion wave to get ghouls. But your ghouls die to one aa. If the fight takes place in jungle you are fucked. So the only thing you can do in team fight without maiden is hoping your W trap someone or that weird E hitbox actually hit a squishy.

On top of that, before level 2 ult and triforce, the maiden has a huge cool down.

The splitpush two lane at the same time is a meme because it's extremely situational. The best I have done is push one lane with herald then tp to another push with maiden.

Two side push doesn't work unless there legit 4 dead enemy members + zzport actives, ignore that person. Hell i think you can even smite maiden and she is dead.