To this day, as a season 2 veteran, what I hate the most in this game was the addition of keystones

HateDaddy··22 votes·2,039 views

Just to preface, this is going to be a rant. While I might make valid points, in fact I’m certain I will, I absolutely understand that there are valid retorts. I also understand I’m incredibly biased coming from a much simpler, and at times more binary, history in this game. That said, let me have my 5 minutes of soul cleansing. Profanity will be used.

I fucking hate keystones so much. I hate everything about them. They give such ridiculous power to champions that is so fucking hard to judge. Whether it’s PTA Renekton, Conq Jax, Grasp Poppy, etc., it’s all the fucking same. I know conq is going to hurt, I know PTA damage is going to hurt, I know grasp is going to hurt. But I literally always fucking find myself saying “wait it did how much damage?” How in gods fucking green earth are you supposed to be able to accurately judge how much damage these stupid ass keystones are going to do without playing 8-10 hours a day and eventually just developing an instinct for it?

I’m not saying old runes/masteries didn’t give hidden power but it was never like this shit. Even invisible power like %pen or %healing still didn’t feel so fucking overwhelming. And because of keystones, you’ve added another variable you clearly cannot balance and who could expect you to? You threw in these ridiculously powerful concepts onto a roster of over 100+ champions that were never made or balanced around the idea of such a powerful outside source being available to them. Low and behold, every season you have some extreme abuse case of keystones and it’s always absolutely game breaking. Runes and masteries NEVER did this. While there were certainly powerful runes (anybody remember LS Quints pre-nerf?) or masteries (season 4 defensive tree during pre-season), they never escalated to this point. And that’s because they couldn’t, because they were so basic that at most it would provide marginal advantages to champions and all you’d have to do is adjust some numbers. But with these fucking abominations(keystones), you’re constantly nerfing champions because of the existence of keystones and then you turn around and nerf the fucking champions, too!! Why is it any wonder that this game is going down the toilet when shit like this isn’t just constant, it’s EXPECTED.

Who wants to play a game where PTA Renekton combos you without any fury and kills you with ignite when he has a slight lead? Then I’m forced to sit there and just absorb as much experience as I can because I can’t go near minions - and by the way he’s freezing and my jungler won’t help me break the freeze. So I get to sit at 25 cs for 10 minutes cuz even without full fury, PTA Renekton is going to delete me in one combo. This shit is so dumb dude. I try to enjoy this game with the limited time I have. I don’t expect to ever get back to being a really good player, so I don’t go into these games thinking less of my opponents and just trash them the entire time, I go in with the idea that I’ll have fun. But most of my games are like this and that’s because keystones are a fucking abomination and need to be deleted. Oh haha by the way, those runes/stats didn’t matter? Yeah, who’d think 12 armor would do anything to a keystone that can infinitely proc true damage, or a keystone that does magic damage and heals or a keystone that stacks adaptive damage. This shit is so dumb dude, why do I even waste my time?

I feel slightly better now. Mind you, it’s 11:30 am and I’m still butthurt about something that happened 12 hours ago.

14 Comments

Poske8 votes

You dont hate the game as much as you should...

DESPITE losing Le blanc what I hate the most is the lack of improvements Here is a list of issues / stuff which riot didnt improve in 10 YEARS

  1. A game punishes you for being good. Whether its good Csing, killing, ganking DOESNT FKING MATTER
  • Oh you have a CS LEAD here is a massive fking bounty on your head Good luck carrying without being involved
  • Oh you got few kills here is a massive fking bounty on your head. Also the enemy TP-ed so he is actually Ahead because logic
  • Oh you roam ganked? Well to bad that despite a good gank you are somewhat behind in CS and experience now
  • Oh you were terrorizing entire game, to bad the enemy jungler won a coinflip baron smite war and now you lost because A SINGLE COINFLIPY BUTTOM PRESS MATTERED THEN MORE THEN YOU OUTPLAYING ENTIRE FKING GAME
  • Oh you are a better player WELL TO BAD THIS THINGS CALLED TOWERS ARE THERE TO TURTLE GARBAGE FKING PLAYERS
  • If I were teleport I would feel extremly uncomfortable in current league state. Feels wrong on so many levels

You are only not punished for taking first Tower / tower gold, I guess FKING live design team is full of random jayce mains because as melee champion unless by some miracle you kill an enemy you arent fking touching a tower while they are alive

  1. Crit is still RNG BASED

WE HAD FKING 5 CRIT ITEM REWORKS BY NOW. WHAT IS AN EXCUSE NOT TO FIRE ENTIRE FKING LIVE DESIGN TEAM FOR KEEPING THE RNG SERIOUSLY WHATS AN EXCUSE?

Every 4th auto crits starting with First/second/third/forth System (depends on item) WOULD BE 120381038103 TIMES BETTER than RNG crits

Also ALL LIVE DESIGN TEAM DOES NOWDAYS IS REWORK CRIT / CHANGE MASTERIES A BIT thats THEIR VISION OF LEAGUE FKING PATHETIC

  1. MINIONS ARE LITERALY 2/10 IN TERMS OF DESIGN. they dated so bad it saddens me
  • There are mages / AP assassin who literally CANNOT farm at certain point in a game due to how they buffed minion scalling (Ahri, Le blanc etc)

  • The whole cannon minion being worth 80 gold is another coinflip r%%%%%ed change. Nice last hitting SKILLS OH you missed a cannon nvm GARBAGE LAST HITTING SKILLS

  • Supports still dont interact with minions. Leona using Zenith blade once every 5 minutes is PEEK High elo leona gameplay

Why cant they even interact with allied minions for cool effects and showcase their skill Why are there so few minion types Why in lategame at Nexus fights are THERE 129301391203913013 Minions to a point where Screen feels cloggy

  • Minion block is still a nuisance rather then a Mechanic

  • Blocking first waves Was a bad game start BUT CHEESING IN A FKING TRIBUSH OR INVADING AT LEVEL 1 IS GOOD GAMEPLAY FKING AIDS COMPANY

  • Why the fk does game start in a minute 2?

  1. Itemization

MAGE ITEMIZATION HAS SO LITTLE DIVERSITY STOPWATCH is better tank item then most tank items Penetration percentages are to aids

TANK RUNES scale with % OF HP yet the itemization is so fking random that unless you are Cho/Sion good luck scalling your stuff since few items give good HP other then Warmogs

  1. Balance changes
  • Balance team straight up sucks but I am more dissapointed by live design team which does no global game improvements There are 40 champions who are viable in high elo at a given time thats balance team fault

Why is Kassawin back to no skill statcheck manace hyperscalling champion which cannot be bullied in 90% matchups Why is Sejuani back to no skill statcheck menace Why is hecarim back to no skill statcheck menace Why is evelynn allowed to exist IN A CURRENT FKING STATE NICE REWORK BTW SO healthy champion

Why can no skill champions statcheck me from 100>0 ? Champions who require 1 hand are as powerfull as those who require 2 hands just WHY??? (Other then Riven, Ryze)

Why was infernal drake buffed? SERIOUSLY WHAT FKING MUSHROOMS IS RIOT TAKING?

The game has so many fking issues DADDY yet you fixated your emotions on keystones lul But then again I never had high expectations of keystones

Ηuawei2 votes

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You dont hate the game as much as you should...

DESPITE losing Le blanc what I hate the most is the lack of improvements Here is a list of issues / stuff which riot didnt improve in 10 YEARS

  1. A game punishes you for being good. Whether its good Csing, killing, ganking DOESNT FKING MATTER

  • Oh you have a CS LEAD here is a massive fking bounty on your head Good luck carrying without being involved
  • Oh you got few kills here is a massive fking bounty on your head
  • Oh you roam ganked? Well to bad that despite a good gank you are somewhat behind in CS and experience now
  • Oh you were terrorizing entire game, to bad the enemy jungler won a coinflip baron smite war and now you lost because A SINGLE COINFLIPY BUTTOM PRESS MATTERED THEN MORE THEN YOU OUTPLAYING ENTIRE FKING GAME
  • Oh you are a better player WELL TO BAD THIS THINGS CALLED TOWERS ARE THERE TO TURTLE GARBAGE FKING PLAYERS

You are only not punished for taking first Tower / tower gold, I guess FKING live design team is full of random jayce mains because as melee champion unless by some miracle you kill an enemy you arent fking touching a tower while they are alive

  1. Crit is still RNG BASED

WE HAD FKING 5 CRIT ITEM REWORKS BY NOW. WHAT IS AN EXCUSE NOT TO FIRE ENTIRE FKING LIVE DESIGN TEAM FOR KEEPING THE RNG SERIOUSLY WHATS AN EXCUSE?

Every 4th auto crits starting with First/second/third/forth System (depends on item) WOULD BE 120381038103 TIMES BETTER than RNG crits

Also ALL LIVE DESIGN TEAM DOES NOWDAYS IS REWORK CRIT / CHANGE MASTERIES A BIT thats THEIR VISION OF LEAGUE FKING PATHETIC

  1. MINIONS ARE LITERALY 2/10 IN TERMS OF DESIGN. they dated so bad it saddens me

  • There are mages / AP assassin who literally CANNOT farm at certain point in a game due to how they buffed minion scalling (Ahri, Le blanc etc)

  • The whole cannon minion being worth 80 gold is another coinflip r%%%%%ed change. Nice last hitting SKILLS OH you missed a cannon nvm GARBAGE LAST HITTING SKILLS

  • Supports still dont interact with minions. Leona using Zenith blade once every 5 minutes is PEEK High elo leona gameplay

Why cant they even interact with allied minions for cool effects and showcase their skill Why are there so few minion types Why in lategame at Nexus fights are THERE 129301391203913013 Minions to a point where Screen feels cloggy

  • Minion block is still a nuisance rather then a Mechanic

  • Blocking first waves Was a bad game start BUT CHEESING IN A FKING TRIBUSH OR INVADING AT LEVEL 1 IS GOOD GAMEPLAY FKING AIDS COMPANY

  • Why the fk does game start in a minute 2?

  1. Itemization

MAGE ITEMIZATION HAS SO LITTLE DIVERSITY STOPWATCH is better tank item then most tank items Penetration percentages are to aids

TANK RUNES scale with % OF HP yet the itemization is so fking random that unless you are Cho/Sion good luck scalling your stuff since few items give good HP other then Rabadon

  1. Balance changes
  • Balance team straight up sucks but I am more dissapointed by live design team which does no global game improvements There are 40 champions who are viable in high elo at a given time thats balance team fault

Why is Kassawin back to no skill statcheck manace hyperscalling champion which cannot be bullied in 90% matchups Why is Sejuani back to no skill statcheck menace Why is hecarim back to no skill statcheck menace Why is evelynn allowed to exist IN A CURRENT FKING STATE NICE REWORK BTW SO healthy champion

Why can no skill champions statcheck me from 100>0 ? Champions who require 1 hand are as powerfull as those who require 2 hands just WHY??? (Other then Riven, Ryze)

Why was infernal drake buffed? SERIOUSLY WHAT FKING MUSHROOMS IS RIOT TAKING?

The game has so many fking issues DADDY yet you fixated your emotions on keystones lul But then again I never had high expectations of keystones

You're practically describing the clown fiesta that was season 8.

Games decided in 10-15 mins, everyone spamming surrender, rage quitting and flaming.

Nobody wants season 8, only you.

Poske1 votes

What I am describing ** never ever existed ** and it should have been the future of league of legends

MrFawknSunshine3 votes

runes reforged is a fail.

riot screwed the pooch

all they had to do was remove the IP cost and level gates on the old runes and let every one have full runes from lvl 1 but now we have this bastardation of "runes"

Rapterminator 023 votes

Hyper carries get conquerer Tanks get grasp Assassins get electrocute Shen gets... fucked over

bluefire mark 21 votes

Grasp shen is good

Rapterminator 021 votes

I agree that it works, but do keep in mind Shen doesn’t have good base health. Grasp damage and healing scales off max health so Shen just doesn’t use it as well as other top laners.

bluefire mark 21 votes

Aftershock works well too, but at the same time keep in mind grasp GIVES max hp. Not a lot but with constant procs it adds up. So that helps a little with sustain, damage, and max hp.

Rapterminator 021 votes

Aftershock is good for Shen if he is going tank or support, but Shen just a isn’t a good tank and he is a passable support. He brings one cc ability (not counting Q) and his base stats are just low. He is pretty much only played for his ultimate, which makes him feel like an enchanter that dies in 3 seconds instead of 1. And in that case he should bring guardian, but if he is top well he can’t duel as well. So it’s either play to his conditional strengths or compensate his constant weaknesses

WeeWeeBojangles2 votes

A huge part of game was killed when they removed the old runes. That was a HUGE mistake. Runes themselves were an entire strategy. You could tell a good player from a bad player based on their runes. You could easily climb out of bronze just because you had a slight concept of the game and knew how to build rune pages. You could straight up tell your opponent was going to be trash, when at the start of the game they would have an extra 30 ap. You knew their runes were nothing but AP and you could abuse that.

Sure there were some issues with them. They cost a bit too much IP and had tier sets. Had they been cheaper and only offered tier 3 runes everything would have been fine. It felt like sometime in season 5 runes and masteries were actually fairly ballanced. Then season 6 or 7 came around and they removed the runes and masteries to have some hybrid system which is just a disaster.

The new system offers very little diversity and every champion is taking the same thing. Every bruiser is running conqueror for a r%%%%%ed amount of true damage, Everyone running resolve takes demolish for a free stack of gold with the new turret plating. Every assassin runs electrocute. Every mage runs either aery or comet.

Then there are keystones and other branches that are just completely useless on everyone minus a couple champions. Very few run Phase rush other than maybe ryze, vlad, and casseopia. Ezreal is the only champion in the game that can successfully run keptomancy.

Lovelle2 votes

I feel the exact same way. It's absurd how much damage everyone does all game, but especially early on. It's just gotten hard to keep up with, especially on the older champs.

emarythomp22 votes

Honestly. I think they should just straight up nerf every single keystone and see what happens. It would tone down damage and power creep right?

CrystaIIineFIask1 votes

And now they implemented a role system that is just killing the idea of having different Tiers. Good job Rito. Screw the game more.

Bârd1 votes

IMO they should salvage a handful of keystones.

A few would be cool as summoner spells, a couple would be cool items, and a couple could simply be tuned down into lesser runes.

Everything else can burn.

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