Garen: Do People Really Want The Crit Vs Extra Damage?

boss10000··2 votes·1,317 views

So to start, with the recent change to Garen on PBE, crit was re added but the damage scaling was reduced:

> Judgement (E): > Total AD ratio reduced to .46/.47/.48/.49/.5 from .47/.49/.51/.53/.55 > [RE ADDED EFFECT] Judgement can once again critically strike for bonus damage

What this meant was that for people that built Garen as a full / off tank, this is a nerf as you would never ever build IE or Ghost blade, but for people that actually like those items this is a nice change.

DISCLAIMER: i'm a full tank Garen player not a crit Garen


Now honestly I would rather have it where Garen has a higher AD ratio rather than crit, while the crit thing was a nice qwerk for him it was often never used for most Garen's you built full tank or off tank (BC, etc.).

The re-adding of crit seems like it would be nice for the people that played Garen in the crit style but be a overall nerf to people that prefer to play Garen as a tank (which I think is the majority of Garen players), this means that this change will make make the players that like the qwerky crit build happy but make him weaker for the majority of players that prefer to build him tanky.


So would people honestly like to see Garen have crit back so you can build the qwerky crit build, or would people rather have it where you get the higher AD ratio that will probably help more build paths than that qwerky one?

READ ME: This is to get an idea of if people would rather have the crit qwerk or the AD ratio buff on Garen.

7 Comments

ChargeItDownMid2 votes

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boss100001 votes

Yes but with the extra AD ratio it would work with all other builds (except the crit build) while the crit one only really helps the crit build, see what im meaning?

Example:

  1. Full damage Garen would get more out of the AD ratio
  2. Full AS Garen would get more out of the AD ratio etc, etc, etc.

While the crit would only work with a crit Garen.

See what i mean?

Abyssphere2 votes

Read the context on the change. They nerfed the AD ratio because he was already too strong late, and they added back the crit mechanic because they do not expect crit Garen to be the optimal build, so it is essentially harmless power to add into his kit. The two changes are unrelated - the AD ratio would have been reduced even if he didn't get the crit back in, and the crit would have been added back in even if the AD ratio remained as high as it once was.

Crit chance on his E is power he won't use at the most optimal of times. They gave it back just because players find it a fun build.

LadyRenly1 votes

Crit is so dumb lol. I lol any time I see a Garen with an IE or something equally lame.

Zarxis1 votes

I usually build Infinity Edge and Black Cleaver (+ Mercury Treads and 3 tank items) as Garen. I like his unique synergy with crit; I'd hate to see that synergy removed (especially now that his spin has more "ticks"). I'd be fine with changing the chance of E critting to an Ashe-style damage amplification.

Baunjo1 votes

Literally all tank garen can do is silence stuff and steal kills. He can otherwise be completely ignored because his damage as a tank is basically non existent

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