Good to know Camille can't do her job anymore.

Niyumi··3 votes·2,552 views

Always fun when Riot releases a champion then nerfs them into the ground because whiny little brats can't open their fucking eyes and look at how she works and how to beat her. You have to build glass cannon in order to out-damage anyone now, and you're too squishy to actually survive. She's, you know, MEANT to dive onto ADCs and squishies and murder them. Yet, she dies instantly and can't murder them even when building full damage. Way to ruin another fun champion.

We nerf champions who HAVE counterplay into the ground, but buff or ignore broken champions who have none? Yeah, great philosophy Riot.

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dunder kill10 votes

You have to build glass cannon in order to out-damage anyone now

Yet, she dies instantly and can't murder them even when building full damage.

She's literally gotten ONE damage nerf and it wasnt even that big lmao

Sciela post strikes again. Every single one is garbage

Niyumi3 votes

She lost 20% of her damage on her Q, her Q was nerfed before that, her stun was cut almost in half, and her slow is not even worth anything anymore. She lost base health and health growth.

She just can't compete anymore. Any other diver is better than her.

dunder kill5 votes

She lost 20% of her damage on her Q

NOPE

She lost 20% of the BONUS damage on her 2nd Q hit which brought it from 200% to 180%. Thats a 10% damage nerf on her 2nd Q. First Q unchanged.

Not today Sciela. You were one of those people actually defending her on launch when she was absolutely disgustingly broken xD

Niyumi3 votes

She was never disgustingly broken. She had VERY obvious counterplay, clear weaknesses, and was only strong if the enemy fucked up -- they didn't play properly, they lost to her. Now she can't even do anything.

And ALMOST ALL OF HER DAMAGE is loaded into that second Q. Without that damage, she does nothing. And, against 90% of the champs these days, she only gets one combo off before she falls over dead.

dunder kill4 votes

She was never disgustingly broken

hahahahahahahaha xD

LordGeovanni1 votes

Camille is around a month old with 10 separate nerfs to her kit. Im not saying she got nerfed 10 times i saying that they either nerfed several diffrent things once or one thing several times to add up to at least 10nerfs. 7.3 is 7 nerfs alone. and ever since release she only ever needed one nerf effecting her q true damage .

RexSaur9 votes

Camille is still overpowered/ban tier, you're just low elo.

PermabannedGaren2 votes

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Camille is still overpowered/ban tier

Ehhh, she deserved her nerfs but she seems to be fine now. Statistically she looks to be a little on the weak side, but she's a pretty high skill cap champion so that will probably change when people get better at her.

Lauchmelder1 votes

She's a little bit better than Zed right now in terms of power.

And exactly like Zed she's a ban that's never wrong because of how retardedly loaded her kit is.

Rock MD5 votes

That feel when pros who win games with her flexing in 4 of the 5 positions are whiny brats.

LordGeovanni2 votes

especially

BeatzBoyFTW4 votes

She's, you know, MEANT to dive onto ADCs and squishies and murder them.

So technically, you want her dive to have absolutely 0 counterplay since that's her kit as a "Diver".

What do you mean by "learning to play against her" again?

Niyumi3 votes

No, I want her to be able to actually burst the ADC if she lands her kit on them, not just fall over dead since every ADC does thrice her damage with just as much CC.

Telegraphs tell you what she's doing. Read the telegraphs, and Camille literally can't touch you.

BeatzBoyFTW2 votes

"Can't touch you", and that's where her ult comes in, basically to force the enemy to not run away from you. Plus, there's a ton of time where you should not kept going solo without your team if you're planning for a dive.

Plus, she's a monster in the current competitive match now, where she has the viability to go top, mid & even support for some goddamn reason, adding the part that she has a highly substantial ban rate in Diamond & above. She needs some tweaking to it, and the ones she had this patch isn't even THAT excessive.

Niyumi3 votes

Even when she ults you, you can still kite her around and CC her -- in fact, most champs out-damage her even inside her ult.

Only reason pros pick her is for her ult.

Calabok3 votes

I agree. Lets nerf Camille

The JigSAW3 votes

This is the reason I had to switch to Assassin Camille.

First off, Camille didn't need nerf after nerf. Her ult lasted four seconds, why did it need to be dropped to one after death? If somebody is dumb enough to dive her under her turret they deserve to be stuck there.

Her E was a one second stun, they had to drop it by 25% and then remove attack speed bonus unless you hit a champ, and raised the mana cost. Her shield was nerfed, her Q was nerfed, frankly she had about seven nerfs in three patches. After the first series of nerfs her winrate dropped, now its going to end up in the toilet by mid-March because as you mentioned she cannot do her job.

The easiest solution is to make her an assassin which honestly is what I thought she was going to be on release. But hey, she had to be nerfed!

Yasuo has bonus AD scale and AP scale on his E, double crit, shield that regenerates in combat, an indestructible wind-wall for 4 seconds blocking any projectile, a 0.5 second E cooldown at rank 1, a Q that hits 700 units away with on-hit effects, and an ult that drops to 27 seconds granting 50% bonus armor pen on crit (aka, every hit when he has 50% critical strike items) plus refreshing his shield, and he receives.. 10-50 base damage on his E dropped. Oh, but its okay, they added bonus AD scaling so now you build Rageblade and do MORE damage than you did before.

Master Yi has true damage, invulnerability during his Q, a meditate that mitigates damage by half and pauses his ult, E, and stacks his passive, his ult allows kills and assists to give him 70% cdr and be immune to all slows, and is one of the most banned champions on the game. However, we can't nerf him because....? why?

Tryndamere's fine outside of the fact he can E under your turret, beat you and a friend to death while tanking 10 turret shots with his ult active, and spin away healing for hundreds of health. Why hasn't the ult been changed so, you know, he -can- die?

Xin Zhao can solo rift herald at level 10, baron/elder by 16, and needs about three items to 1 vs 3 and win. He has low mana costs, cooldown on his Q hits, bonus damage, healing on every basic, and an AOE ult granting MR/Armor. His Q/W enhanced basics can't be blocked by anything outside basic attack blockers, so spellshields won't block his combos. Why?

Garen can tank 20 turret shots while dealing 2,000 true damage and wiping out three people, spin off and heal for his entire lost health within 10 seconds, and have no damage items built in the process. Why?

Oh, but CAMILLE! Nerf the hell out of that champ, she's too strong because she has a high ban/win rate in her FIRST MONTH. You want to know why I think they targeted her so fiercely? She's excellent against those same cheap champs I just mentioned, so they are trying to keep them strong by nerfing her. You think it is a coincidence all the champs those broken champs struggle against or have any issues with are being reworked, nerfed, or just plain changed to be useless? Anivia, Swain, Camille, Malzahar's getting trashed soon, think about it. I was considering even maining Camille, or at least using her frequently, but after all the nerfs I won't play her. This also makes me hesitant about the new champions coming this year, if they get the same treatment I might not want to purchase them so they can be rendered ineffectual two months later.

Makes me absolutely sick.

HongChongDong2 votes

She's not meant to "dive" squishies and one shot them. That's an assassin you jar. Camille's role is to dive a valuable target and say "Ok, you stay right here for a little while till my team comes to finish you."

Niyumi2 votes

Aatrox Diana Ekko Elise Irelia JarvanIV Kled Pantheon Vi XinZhao

All considered divers. What do they do? Jump in, one shot the squishy.

HongChongDong3 votes

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Aatrox Diana Ekko Elise Irelia JarvanIV Kled Pantheon Vi XinZhao

All considered divers. What do they do? Jump in, one shot the squishy.

Divers were originally designed to be champions to dive squishy champions and lock them down as well as deal a moderate amount of damage which allowed assassins to easily follow up for a kill. Just because the games balance is off in terms of damage doesn't change the function of their role.

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