Why must everybody be the ADC's slave?

AquariusGine·Jan 26, 2018·5 votes·506 views

There is already a role DEDICATED to being their permanent slave. (I like playing support so don't take this the wrong way)

The jungler needs to pay extra attention to bot lane because it's an undisputed fact that fed bot= win game.

Certain midlane picks don't do nearly enough damage to be of relevance and have to sacrifice all their CS if the ADC decides to come mid (fed adc= win game, also you can't really out CS Statikk Shiv)

And God knows what top lane does anymore.

Last game I played as Zyra mid and I gave all my CS to Tristana. I had 150 CS while Trist had 400. I knew what I had to do to win the game, but come on? Why must ADCs TAKE EVERYTHING. I'm getting pretty sick of this stupid meta. It makes no sense. I laned to mid game and suddenly ADC has 3 items and everything revolves around them. There is no endgame fantasy playing other roles.

12 Comments

KCCHIEFSFAN15Jan 26, 20183 votes

if fed bot=win the you should want to give everything to them, I actually see the opposite happen in a lot of my games. tank jgs and bitter supports starving the ADC for farm and kills only to turn around and blame them for the loss. the role is Attack Damage CARRY, so let them.

ModWulf HelhammerJan 27, 20182 votes

This is exactly it. Riot put in tools for tanks and supports to feel better about peeling. Once players found out that they could take the gamble of “all the eggs in one basket”, and if they were good enough it worked, the meta shifted to protect the carry comps.

ZephyrDrakeJan 26, 20182 votes

this just tells me more about how terrible Zyra is at actual CSing... no idea why you are giving that much CS to your ADC when it's more than likely they will already have their items without you doing so. You still need your items and they cost more than those of the ADC, go to a lane where your ADC isn't, take jungle camps. Be more assertive about what is yours instead of having someone come and be "this is all mine thank you very much"

AquariusGineJan 26, 20181 votes

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this just tells me more about how terrible Zyra is at actual CSing... no idea why you are giving that much CS to your ADC when it's more than likely they will already have their items without you doing so. You still need your items and they cost more than those of the ADC, go to a lane where your ADC isn't, take jungle camps. Be more assertive about what is yours instead of having someone come and be "this is all mine thank you very much"

No.. doing so would be a mistake. I stopped CSing so Tristana could quickly get 6 items and win. And we did win.

ZephyrDrakeJan 26, 20182 votes

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No.. doing so would be a mistake. I stopped CSing so Tristana could quickly get 6 items and win. And we did win.

"mistake" well then that is your problem and not the ADCs or Riots. Mid lane can carry just as hard as bot lane. If you want to give everything to you ADC go right ahead but don't come here complaining because you decided to do so.

AquariusGineJan 26, 20181 votes

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"mistake" well then that is your problem and not the ADCs or Riots. Mid lane can carry just as hard as bot lane. If you want to give everything to you ADC go right ahead but don't come here complaining because you decided to do so.

Midlane can carry hard as bot?? Where have you been the last few months

ZephyrDrakeJan 27, 20182 votes

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Midlane can carry hard as bot?? Where have you been the last few months

the same place as you. I am sorry that i actually know that mid laners can carry and don't follow the same bandwagon "ADC is all that matters!" Maybe if you actually picked carry mid laners instead of utility ones you would actually hard carry games. You as the mid laner often are the second carry of your team. Stop trying to feel sorry for yourself because you did something YOU decided to do. No one is forcing you to give all your CS to your ADC, that is a terrible idea and if ANYTHING happened to your ADC then your team would have nobody at all to fallback since you decided that you having no items somehow was a great idea

KCCHIEFSFAN15Jan 27, 20181 votes

then why are you complaining?

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No.. doing so would be a mistake. I stopped CSing so Tristana could quickly get 6 items and win. And we did win.

AquariusGineJan 26, 20181 votes

The only few midlane champions that can hard carry are Yasuo, Annie, Veigar, Kat

ResterJan 27, 20181 votes

Currently it's whoever can get bot lane tower first gets the early advantage from what I feel.

JackMcSnipeyzJan 27, 20181 votes

I mean, if you cant have an impact mid that's on you, nobody is forcing you to give your adc your lane. The sooner you realise it's a team game and each role impacts the game differently the better, not everyone are gonna get the most kills. If you think adc just stands alone and right clicks 1v5 then i pitty your games, it takes a TEAM to win a TEAM FIGHT and adc cant pull out his damage without frontline champs from top, AoE utility and damage from mages, and support to shield and heal the team. If on your game as zyra you would miss your grasp or ult, your team would be at a disadvantage just like if you had a under fed adc. If when i play adc, my support is not in a teamfight i cant survive long without his shields/peel. It's team effort just cause adc gets to last hit doesnt mean he's the only impactful guy.

I've never seen someone so insecure he gave all his farm to his adc for him to carry him that's just sad.